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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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So I'm about to place my order for a few subtle power mods.

1. Weapon X Ported Throttle Body

2. aFe Momentum CAI

3. DiabloSport inTune I-1000

These are the first 'power' mods, will later add mid-lengths and a supercharger.

Looks like this combo may get me up to ~520hp, perhaps ~450rwhp.

Whatcha think. Will I be able to tell a difference?
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Originally Posted by beachcomber
So I'm about to place my order for a few subtle power mods.

1. Weapon X Ported Throttle Body

2. aFe Momentum CAI

3. DiabloSport inTune I-1000

These are the first 'power' mods, will later add mid-lengths and a supercharger.

Looks like this combo may get me up to ~520hp, perhaps ~450rwhp.

Whatcha think. Will I be able to tell a difference?
I think your HP hopes for those mods are too high. I would estimate 480HP or 410RWHP. I have intake, ported TB, long tube headers, catted Xpipe, and I am custom dyno tuned and I put down about 430HP and 440TQ to the wheels. Realistically, your going to feel the tune the most as is has throttle adjustment capabilities. The headers netted me the most torque so far though. It was quite noticeable.

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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 09:10 PM
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Looks like this combo may get me up to ~520hp, perhaps ~450rwhp.


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Originally Posted by beachcomber
So I'm about to place my order for a few subtle power mods.

1. Weapon X Ported Throttle Body

2. aFe Momentum CAI

3. DiabloSport inTune I-1000

These are the first 'power' mods, will later add mid-lengths and a supercharger.

Looks like this combo may get me up to ~520hp, perhaps ~450rwhp.

Whatcha think. Will I be able to tell a difference?

1 thru 3 - 25 to 28 hp. Headers and supercharger will be big hitters.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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Just do the tune then save for headers. Skip intake and tb.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Just do the tune then save for headers. Skip intake and tb.
I agree.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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I agree.
Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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I dis-agree----If you have been reading dyno results from the major Corvette mod shops in the US they almost all say- On the LT1-the intake airflow is a horrible restriction---
I have done all the mods you want to do--
T-Body
AFE intake
EFILIVE tune
SMR catch can
new exhaust system ( cat back)
As a tuner I have to say that I did the TUNE 1st--then started modding---After each of these mods I had to De-Tune my TQ response table as it became so aggressive it was annoying to drive--
As I added each mod it required a detune--That told me they were working--The greatest increase in TQ response came from the T-Body and 2nd was the AFE---
I think easily with my similar mods as you want with the addition of my "mufflerless" exhaust--I am easily near 525-530 Crank HP--
naysayers will disagree--But that's because they don't have a datalogger to measure results of mods---
The TUNE is the key---You must get a tuner who knows how to tune these new DI engines---I have experimented with mine and made over 25 dyno runs --Bone stock---and as I said--after each mod after that--I had to de tune the bottom end--
PS: I recorded a 3.8 0-60 time on a base model automatic with 2.56 gears----On the street and with normal tire pressures-after all my mods and retuning several times---
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Originally Posted by jim2092
I agree.
Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers, X-pipe with cats, AFE CAI & HP Tuner custom tune (conservative) net 436 RWHP (Dynojet) with 93 octane on my Z51 7-speed. I have the NPP exhaust as well.

Your expectations are entirely unrealistic.

Skip the TB.

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If he wasn't adding a blower later sure, but stock intake works great and any aftermarket will be replaced with blower. Plus I'm not a fan of afe, so I would wait and get something else if you want a cai. I would just leave car stock until blower.
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Originally Posted by tblu92
I dis-agree----If you have been reading dyno results from the major Corvette mod shops in the US they almost all say- On the LT1-the intake airflow is a horrible restriction---
I have done all the mods you want to do--
T-Body
AFE intake
EFILIVE tune
SMR catch can
new exhaust system ( cat back)
As a tuner I have to say that I did the TUNE 1st--then started modding---After each of these mods I had to De-Tune my TQ response table as it became so aggressive it was annoying to drive--
As I added each mod it required a detune--That told me they were working--The greatest increase in TQ response came from the T-Body and 2nd was the AFE---
[B] I think easily with my similar mods as you want with the addition of my "mufflerless" exhaust--I am easily near 525-530 Crank HP-- [B]
naysayers will disagree--But that's because they don't have a datalogger to measure results of mods---
The TUNE is the key---You must get a tuner who knows how to tune these new DI engines---I have experimented with mine and made over 25 dyno runs --Bone stock---and as I said--after each mod after that--I had to de tune the bottom end--
PS: I recorded a 3.8 0-60 time on a base model automatic with 2.56 gears----On the street and with normal tire pressures-after all my mods and retuning several times---
I think your estimate is much too high and your butt dyno may need a calibration lol. Can you provide dyno numbers to prove these numbers?
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Originally Posted by beachcomber
So I'm about to place my order for a few subtle power mods.

1. Weapon X Ported Throttle Body

2. aFe Momentum CAI

3. DiabloSport inTune I-1000

These are the first 'power' mods, will later add mid-lengths and a supercharger.

Looks like this combo may get me up to ~520hp, perhaps ~450rwhp.

Whatcha think. Will I be able to tell a difference?

Yes, you will "feel" those mods mainly because of how the inTUNE changes the driver demand TQ tables. Really "wakes" the car up.

However, the HP gains really won't be that crazy.

If you are planning on a doing a supercharger, think about it like this.

- The intake will get replaced
- The ProCharger kit comes with an inTUNE
- Don't "need" exhaust changes to get a HUGE gain in power.


With the mods you listed, and headers.... you would be more then half way to a ProCharger systems cost. (But with about 100HP less power gain) Something to think about, since the supercharger system for these cars is so affordable, and so easy to install. The "bang for the buck" really works out very good. AKA: HP per dollar
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Originally Posted by Unreal
If he wasn't adding a blower later sure, but stock intake works great and any aftermarket will be replaced with blower. I would just leave car stock until blower.
Agree.
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Originally Posted by ProChargerTech
Yes, you will "feel" those mods mainly because of how the inTUNE changes the driver demand TQ tables. Really "wakes" the car up.

However, the HP gains really won't be that crazy.

If you are planning on a doing a supercharger, think about it like this.

- The intake will get replaced
- The ProCharger kit comes with an inTUNE
- Don't "need" exhaust changes to get a HUGE gain in power.


With the mods you listed, and headers.... you would be more then half way to a ProCharger systems cost. (But with about 100HP less power gain) Something to think about, since the supercharger system for these cars is so affordable, and so easy to install. The "bang for the buck" really works out very good. AKA: HP per dollar
How much would properly sized headers add HP/TQ wise to a ProCharger installed C7?
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ProChargerTech
Yes, you will "feel" those mods mainly because of how the inTUNE changes the driver demand TQ tables. Really "wakes" the car up.

However, the HP gains really won't be that crazy.

If you are planning on a doing a supercharger, think about it like this.

- The intake will get replaced
- The ProCharger kit comes with an inTUNE
- Don't "need" exhaust changes to get a HUGE gain in power.


With the mods you listed, and headers.... you would be more then half way to a ProCharger systems cost. (But with about 100HP less power gain) Something to think about, since the supercharger system for these cars is so affordable, and so easy to install. The "bang for the buck" really works out very good. AKA: HP per dollar
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Originally Posted by jim2092
How much would properly sized headers add HP/TQ wise to a ProCharger installed C7?
Seen 20-25rwhp/25-30rwtq from headers on blown c7s.
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I have the Diablo 93 octane tune, Afe Intake, and a Mgw short throw in my car and in my opionon it feels like a completely different vehicle now.

Diablo 93 octane tune.... I loved this not only does it give you supposedly 20hp you can adjust the throttle response. This gives you super snappy revs. Oh and be ready for the car to get louder not sure if it's just running more efficient or what but it deffinatly has a more pronounced bark

Afe intake..... They say 15 hp. I'm guessing that's probably true it does make wonderful engine induction noises now and I feel like it revs easier.

Just spend the money on these mods its worth it
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Originally Posted by Waytofastvette2006
I have the Diablo 93 octane tune, Afe Intake, and a Mgw short throw in my car and in my opionon it feels like a completely different vehicle now.

Diablo 93 octane tune.... I loved this not only does it give you supposedly 20hp you can adjust the throttle response. This gives you super snappy revs. Oh and be ready for the car to get louder not sure if it's just running more efficient or what but it deffinatly has a more pronounced bark

Afe intake..... They say 15 hp. I'm guessing that's probably true it does make wonderful engine induction noises now and I feel like it revs easier.

Just spend the money on these mods its worth it
I agree. The tune and AFE were worth the money in my opinion. Car felt much better after. Looking at headers and the Mgw shifter next.
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Procharger - Any way you could be convinced to make an intake adapter for the AFE filter & airbox as an intake option for your supercharger kits?
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