Any body using LG Pro Long Tube Headers? Before I buy ARH I'm wanting to see if LG Pro Long Tubes compare.. Thanks for you time and reply..

 

They're made in China!!! Charging American made prices, just sayin'

 

TS&P headers made in China? My guess is all the long tubes produce about the same torque curve.

 

TSP is half the price too. If I were gonna pay prices asked for headers for these cars, I'd want an American made product... TSP is the exception, as their headers are priced fairly for what they are..., a Chinese made product.

 

IIRC only the budget LG headers are made in China, the Super Pros are made in US?

 

The LG LT headers look and work great.

 

They all work great!!! My only point is... They're charging premium prices for foreign made products. ALL their headers are now made in China. The only ones made here are ARH, Kooks, Stainless Works, and CPR's. I would want American made headers for my American made car. And before anyone says these cars aren't American made, they tied with the F-150 for the MOST American made cars at 87% materials and labor. Rant over!

 

Thanks guys for all your time and replies. That's it I'm going with ARH.

 

Great choice! You won't regret it. Fit, finish, and QUALITY is there.

 

GM has just finished their 11th new factory building GM cars IN CHINA so if you are so set on not buying from China,

**Close your computer
**throw away your phone,
**Stop buying from Walmart
**Take off all your clothes and go nakid
**Don't eat pork raised in China
**Turn off your TV because the last US TV factory was closed 4 years ago.
**98% of ALL wheels on GM cars are made in China or Mexico
**47% of all Cadillac CTS parts are made in China
**34% of the CORVETTE is made in China. It is said that even the C7 frame parts are made in China and welded at Bowling green.

** Don't buy any exhaust because the Stainless steel tubing comes from China and overseas through US distributors.

I can go on but I won't.

Our street series headers are made in China and we cut about $700 off the cost. and our True Merge collectors are an investment casting made in China because any company with a SMOKE STACK is run out of business in America.

Should I keep going?

It would be easier to make a list of what IS actually manufactured in America than to list what is not.

Even much of our Government printing is done in China. Who would have thought?



Thanks
Lou Gigliotti

 

Now the question is how are you going to use your C7.

Monster power build up would use our 1 7/8 headers with the Merge collector.

Small buildup with a just headers and a cold air and even a small cam would use our Stepped headers. They start out as 1 3/4" at the head but grow to 1 7/8 after a short length.
That keeps the exhaust velocity up as the gasses leave the cylinder head

We use the stepped headers on our race cars to keep the low end torque up. It helps the early acceleration out of a corner.

Without big internal engine mods, the stepped design is the way to go.

If you plan on later upgrades to the engine, then you might want to use the 1 7/8" headers with our Merge Collector that broadens the power through the entire range.

hope that helps

Thanks

Lou Gigliotti

 

I'm not looking for an argument, but I believe if you're charging what you do for you headers made elsewhere and then say they're superior to all else, it's a bold statement. I have listed 4 brands in an earlier post made 100% here in America, and I believe their quality is as superior. Only my opinion of course as that, and .50cents, will get you a cup of coffee. But to defend myself, as you stated on your rebuttle to my quality to cost post here it goes:

** I don't drive my computer... Can't buy American
** I don't drive my phone... I like iPhones
** I do not shop at Walmart! No offense against those that do.
** Whenever possible I purchase American made clothes. Please note, my work boots are made in America.
** I don't eat pork made in China - I purchase it from places that do not sell Chinese pork.
** My tv's are made in Japan... Known for their electronics.
** I have replaced my factory wheels with Forgelines...Made in good ole USA!!!
** Don't own a Cadillac, I own a 'Vette.
** I believe the latest number was 87% of my 2014 Corvette was made in USA which ties it with the F-150 as the most American made vehicle.
*** Additionally, 95% of my furniture and appliances in my home are made in the United States. I did the research to make sure of it.

So, if you're saying you can't manufacture your headers here based on American politics and constraints, how are these other companies doing this very thing? I have no beef with you... Just trying to defend my opinion just like you.

 

There is not a single exhaust company in the us that uses 100% US content. End of story.

Your Corvette has between 30-40% overseas content, much of which is Chinese.
If you want 0% Chinese content you have to go PRE 1974 before Nixon went to china and opened the doors or flood gates which ever you prefer.

Steel City use to be Pittsburg but now it is mainly rust city. There is only one steel mill in Pa as far as I know.

Your 87% figure is way off but who is to argue. For sure you would now want to add .1% to that out of principle.

Not to throw anyone under the bus but I would check on the content for the Forgelline wheels. They are no different than anyone trying to escape the overseas confiscation of our Manufacturing.

No matter where you buy your clothes, they do not come from America 100% And your pork?
>>> I bet you didn't know that the US Congress just repealed the act that required the "Country of origin" labels on meat. Did you?

BUT you were willing to throw LG Motorsports headers under the bus because you are a loyal "other brand" supporter? Really? that is based in which principle?

We pay dearly for our ONLY True Merge Collector in the aftermarket Header world. I paid for tooling and I pay when the collectors or my wheels (built in a factory that builds GM wheels as well) hit Long Beach and everything that we contribute to the economy.

I would like to know what you do for a living that you can be this judgmental about a company that has contributed so much to the Corvette brand over the last 30 years? Are you from Long Island or NJ? Just saying

Oh by the way, Our LG Headers are the best on the planet and I have put them against every other brand over and over on a dyno starting back in 2000 when we changed the Corvette header market with our design.

good talking to you

 

Lou thanks for taking time and your reply. LG Motorsports did heads/cam/ headers/regear/Tq convertor/ Tune on my C5 back in 05 and it was a great and very fast car. The LG Pro Longtubes on that car were great. I had No idea that they were made in China, as it turns out they were just fine. My question for you is : What have the stepped headers and tune dynoed on an otherwise stock C7 with a M7. Thank you very much Lou I have always enjoyed talking with you. Good luck with your car racing. If you care to pm me a price for install and tune on a set of your LG Pro Longtubes I would appreciate it.
2014 C7 Z51 M7..

 

Great set of headers. At least LG didn't lie to me like one of the other places did and tell me the 2 inch headers was the new verson & also didn't have to fix the A/C line problem.

The guy I got my headers from at LG was great did what he told me. Plus headers went in like was told. Robert

 

I won't air my grievances against your company on a public forum... As for my being loyal to ANY company, I'm not. Just stating facts as I'm to understand them. Dollars to dollars you are charging a premium for a non American made product and your competition is charging the same money for their claimed 100% made in USA product. I'd rather spend my money on USA made stuff when available.

Btw... I'm from Texas!! Right in your back yard! I tried to do business with you a short time ago... Didn't happen based on a "misunderstanding" I work in aviation and I assure you what I do IS 100% made in America. Please don't challenge me on this statement because I don't need to prove anything to you, I'm not trying to sell my product on here, you are.

 

Having lived in NY most of my life…WTF does this mean???

"Are you from Long Island or NJ? Just saying"

Because I am taking it the wrong way!! And I assure you I have contributed a lot more to society than you have to the corvette brand!

 

???? Who is "we" ??

And Yes, they are not 100% truthful because it is a monumental task to get US MADE Stainless steel 304 seamless tubing.

A stamped Collector is not a merge collector just because they call it that. Kind of like calling Bruce Jenner by a girls name, doesn't make him a girl.

Post the name of the company and I will be glad to show you the "import Manifest" from the US Government data base. Some companies don't even know what materials actually come from China or south America so I can understand the confusion.

All that said, your posts for the last year or so have focused on headers where you brag about which ever brand you buy for a while until you buy another brand. ???

Look either way, we have a great product that we sell and we back them up 100% with a LIFETIME GUARANTEE for the original owner.
We have had so few problems, we even warranted a set that was bought 8 years ago and NOT by the original owner.


We are what we are. A great Corvette performance parts and service company that has been around the Corvette market since 1988. We made our first set of Corvette headers in 2000 and they gained (Over all other brands available) 23 hp and 27 ft pounds of torque, Yes that was compared to another brand.

GO back and take a look at our 2000 version of our C5 headers with fabricated Merge collectors and our siamese X pipe and you will not only determine that we were the first but even today our design is copied over and over and they call themselves "Genius" for making what we have made for 15 years.
We use to use Stainless works to build our primary tubes and X pipe then we welded them up here in Texas. I went to their shop in Ohio to build my X pipe exactly the way I wanted it to be. When we stopped buying from them and went to Borla, somehow my X pipe still ends up on their product?? Funny how that works.

You have every right to buy any part from any company that you want but it would be nice if you would not spread your own lies.

I don't take kindly to posts that try to cast inflammatory doubt on my products.

We have over 25 years in the Camaro Corvette performance industry. We are still here and we still make innovative parts for Corvettes and Other GM performance cars.

We have a reputation of ALWAYS doing the right thing by our customers.

Of course we can't please everyone but we try.

Have a great day.

Lou Gigliotti

 

Hey, I am from NY and I take offense to that

Those happen to be the two original states of the header companies that he seems to be referencing

OR, I could just be pulling your leg

SO, why did you leave NY? I know why I did but I am wondering why you did?

OH THE TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE

 

the whole point to selling and making Chinese made product is because its cheaper. for both company and consumer.

the LG headers are the same price as the american made products. Plus both headers are good. At that point you should just buy the american

and for anyone who says our cars have chinese made parts or cars aren't made here anymore. So my friends dad who works in Detroit at GM headquarters isnt making money off GM sold cars? no matter where they are made.

point is that when you can buy american.