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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 06:18 AM
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From my research the metal is very cheap on the chinese knock offs and it's not uncommon at all for welds to crack or flanges to break off after a few months to a year.

That was on of the main reasons I went with a name brand.
Yah that's what u pay for really wasn't getting these anyway
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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Our C7 headers are U.S. made with U.S. 304 Stainless Steel and come with a lifetime warranty on craftsmanship and material! Right now we can ship our C7 products in 5 days from the date of an order!
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Not saying IF these headers are good or not----But I have used import headers before on customer's cars who could not afford to pay $1200 for a set of headers--Never had one leak or break or fail---Just a few fitment issues-- Mostly younger owners--
Have you heard of the "Corvette Tax" As soon as you say Corvette--headers cost from $1200 to $2400------Same goes for a cat back exhaust !!! 2 mufflers and maybe 6 bolts and connecting hangers $2400 --I hate getting hammered and paying for something that if was on a Camaro or a Silverado it would be less than 1/2 of those prices------Yeah you get what you pay for----You pay for owning a Corvette and have to pay double the actual real value of the parts !!!!
Sorry guys Just my opinion------
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I don't quite buy the Corvette Tax part of the equation here. The GTO when introduced in 2004 with the LS1 had a base sticker of around $30,000 (which only increased to $32,400 by 2005 with the LS2 addition). All three that I purchased new (2004, 2005, 2006) were fully modified, and one went on to become a full track car when I raced for a well-known sponsor.

Kooks, Stainless Works, etc. were still in the $2,000 range quite simply because they have higher operating and manufacturing costs, not to mention R&D costs to ensure customers aren't completely let down by the product.

OBX, Pacesetter, and the like, on the other hand, don't really have the same worry since they're essentially selling themselves as a 'budget' alternative to the quality options.

I have personally had two sets of OBX and one set of Pacesetter headers break at the flanges over the years - both on four-cylinder and eight-cylinder applications.
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Like I said this is my opinion I am on my 8th new Corvette--And I am glad that someone has come up with an alternative price point for LT1 exhaust -- If only at the least to keep the other manufacturers honest about pricing--There is no way in heck even with research and development costs that a set of LT1 headers should cost you up to $2500--- Are they made out of GOLD ????
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Goin with tsp if I could get a good deal on Arh or Lg I'll
Get those but can't go wrong wit tsp
A forum vendor sold me ARH catless for $1125 shipped, mids not long though.
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 10:46 PM
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Just don't understand why you would want to buy any cheap headers for your Corvette. Sure TSP are made in China but you can get customer service with these guys if you need it. ARH, Kook, Stainless Works, ect. are all known brands that I would stay with if I were you. Cheap equipment on such a fine car doesn't make any sense to me..
I paid a good amount of bucks for my car, and I'm not going to even consider going cheap with aftermarket parts.

A few years back we had one hell of a bad argument on one of the G8 boards which some guys were strongly pro OBX and some like myself were strongly against OBX headers.

I went with ARH on both my 2005 GTO and my 2009 G8 GXP, and on my 2013 Mustang GT I went with BBK.
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Originally Posted by tblu92
Not saying IF these headers are good or not----But I have used import headers before on customer's cars who could not afford to pay $1200 for a set of headers--Never had one leak or break or fail---Just a few fitment issues-- Mostly younger owners--
Have you heard of the "Corvette Tax" As soon as you say Corvette--headers cost from $1200 to $2400------Same goes for a cat back exhaust !!! 2 mufflers and maybe 6 bolts and connecting hangers $2400 --I hate getting hammered and paying for something that if was on a Camaro or a Silverado it would be less than 1/2 of those prices------Yeah you get what you pay for----You pay for owning a Corvette and have to pay double the actual real value of the parts !!!!
Sorry guys Just my opinion------
corvette tax ROFL. go look BMW prices, and Porsche for parts.

it has to do with production numbers. lets say 5% of camaro buyers will buy headers, and 5% of corvette drivers will buy headers.

5% of camaros is a lot more than 5% of corvettes. therefore they put some of that cost to research/testing, and cost to create spread out over more units. very basic stuff here.
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Just to add to this conversation, it's hard for me to speak on the way other companies price their products but our price is purely based on what all comes with the system. Our factory connect Camaro header with high flow cats is $1490 and after the high flow is a short lead to the factory size right after it. Our C7 factory connect header system is $1915 but the system comes with a full 3" X pipe that connects to the factory axle back location. So when there are more sections of an exhaust in one part number, the higher the price.
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Just to add to this conversation, it's hard for me to speak on the way other companies price their products but our price is purely based on what all comes with the system. Our factory connect Camaro header with high flow cats is $1490 and after the high flow is a short lead to the factory size right after it. Our C7 factory connect header system is $1915 but the system comes with a full 3" X pipe that connects to the factory axle back location. So when there are more sections of an exhaust in one part number, the higher the price.
What power they make to the wheels hp and Tq
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Originally Posted by 10mm_
A forum vendor sold me ARH catless for $1125 shipped, mids not long though.
Good deal but I'm looking for long tubes Going with Ecs supercharger n cam
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We generally see around 30 hp & tq with a conservative tune. We've had authorized dealers of ours get results higher than that with an aggressive tune.
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Originally Posted by Stainless Works
We generally see around 30 hp & tq with a conservative tune. We've had authorized dealers of ours get results higher than that with an aggressive tune.
How bout befor a tune and after . Can u say your headers are the same Hp and Tq as ARH
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How bout befor a tune and after . Can u say your headers are the same Hp and Tq as ARH
Honestly I haven't seen an ARH header in action to compare it to ours.
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If these are OBX headers they're actually pretty good. They're popular with the Camaro owners and recently came out with headers for the CTS-V. My friend picked up a set and I have to say the quality looks good and they're stainless. I would rock them if I didn't already didn't have LT's.
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Originally Posted by Stainless Works
Honestly I haven't seen an ARH header in action to compare it to ours.
I would like to see some dyno pulls on video to see and compare
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I would like to see some dyno pulls on video to see and compare
Here is a dyno that our dealer HarchelRoad Motors did last summer: http://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvi...88&oe=55E06BDF
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Here is a dyno that our dealer HarchelRoad Motors did last summer: http://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvi...88&oe=55E06BDF
Sorry but i don't see the results the video is not clear enough
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Some of you guys make it seem like there is some hidden secret in manufacturing LT headers---when LT's have been made for over 50 years and there is no secret of what works and what doesn't--Common sense dictates what works on a N/A engine--whether it's a LS or the new LT engine----Yeah maybe a $2400 set of headers may make 5 more RWHP but at what cost ?? When a company more concerned about price point can sell a set of LT's that only cost $700 and maybe you may not get 30 RWHP but 25 RWHP -- So you have to ask yourself if the extra $1700 is worth 5 RWHP ?? To me the answer is NO------There are no patents on LT design so most of the lower priced LT's are actual copies of the higher priced sets------
Ego within a Corvette owner seems to be more important than value---Where owners like to brag about having a set of $2400 LT's but the real enthusiast would brag about the actual HP gains and the $$ they saved to be able to purchase other HP producing mods-----
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Originally Posted by tblu92
Some of you guys make it seem like there is some hidden secret in manufacturing LT headers---when LT's have been made for over 50 years and there is no secret of what works and what doesn't--Common sense dictates what works on a N/A engine--whether it's a LS or the new LT engine----Yeah maybe a $2400 set of headers may make 5 more RWHP but at what cost ?? When a company more concerned about price point can sell a set of LT's that only cost $700 and maybe you may not get 30 RWHP but 25 RWHP -- So you have to ask yourself if the extra $1700 is worth 5 RWHP ?? To me the answer is NO------There are no patents on LT design so most of the lower priced LT's are actual copies of the higher priced sets------
Ego within a Corvette owner seems to be more important than value---Where owners like to brag about having a set of $2400 LT's but the real enthusiast would brag about the actual HP gains and the $$ they saved to be able to purchase other HP producing mods-----
It's not so much about hp as it is cracked welds when it comes to cheap Chinese knock offs
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