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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:54 PM
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Tried to save a few dollars and took my C7 to Tires Plus in Brandywine MD for an alignment. Well after their techs ( 2 of them) spent 1 hour aligning at cost of $191.44 for the Lifetime Alignment Service, my vette was still pulling to the right. Rather than taking it back to Tires Plus, I went to Waldorf Chevy after a co-worker criticized me for taking a sports car to a shop that works on Family cars and has never worked on a corvette. At Chevy, 1 technician spent 2 hours at a cost of $224.92. Chevy's alignment fixed the problem but was expensive. Got my money back at Tires Plus. Nothing about maintaining the C7 is cheap. Not complaining, I enjoy my C7.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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We here in Central Florida are most fortunate to have Forum member mrr23. Robert is the best at aligning Vettes, and just about anything else anywhere.
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The most difficult thing to find is a place with the proper angle tool for rear caster adjustment on the C7. Most places don't even know rear caster adjustment on a C7 is required, and setting ZERO rear caster is imperative.

FE1-4 = C7 Stingray including Z51
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Found it. The C7Z is FE6/FE7 RPO code.

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Here's an interesting note on the factory alignment that I have referred to in other posts. The C7 as designed by GM has a built in pull to the right, and the front camber setting is asymmetric to account for it (see the chart above, where the right front camber is adjusted with an extra -0.3 degrees compared to the left). This was pointed out to me by the race team at Pfadt Engineering. So if you have an alignment change for the track, or have one done anywhere but the dealer, be sure they have the correct numbers, or you will get that pull to the right.

Btw, my dealer only charged me $125 for a full 4-wheel alignment (I had it modified for both street and track use).

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This information is really helpful. Including the part about your dealer charging only $125. I must have stupid written on my forehead. I NEVER get a fair price with these dealers which is why I went to Tires Plus.

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Here's an interesting note on the factory alignment that I have referred to in other posts. The C7 as designed by GM has a built in pull to the right, and the front camber setting is asymmetric to account for it (see the chart above, where the right front camber is adjusted with an extra -0.3 degrees compared to the left). This was pointed out to me by the race team at Pfadt Engineering. So if you have an alignment change for the track, or have one done anywhere but the dealer, be sure they have the correct numbers, or you will get that pull to the right.

Btw, my dealer only charged me $125 for a full 4-wheel alignment (I had it modified for both street and track use).

JV
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Vet
Here's an interesting note on the factory alignment that I have referred to in other posts. The C7 as designed by GM has a built in pull to the right, and the front camber setting is asymmetric to account for it (see the chart above, where the right front camber is adjusted with an extra -0.3 degrees compared to the left). This was pointed out to me by the race team at Pfadt Engineering. So if you have an alignment change for the track, or have one done anywhere but the dealer, be sure they have the correct numbers, or you will get that pull to the right.

Btw, my dealer only charged me $125 for a full 4-wheel alignment (I had it modified for both street and track use).

JV
Wouldn't more negative camber on the right side, make the car go LEFT instead of right?
Some alignment shops also do that to correct for the crown of the road.
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
Wouldn't more negative camber on the right side, make the car go LEFT instead of right?
Some alignment shops also do that to correct for the crown of the road.
Yes, it does make it go to the left, in order to compensate for the built in pull to the right. The extra camber on the right has the net effect of making the steering neutral.

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Do you have more than 7500 miles on your car? If less than that, it should be free at a GM dealer.
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Originally Posted by carpe dm
Do you have more than 7500 miles on your car? If less than that, it should be free at a GM dealer.
Really?
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Under $100 at my dealer, they've done it twice now (once under warranty, one out of my pocket), and they've never had an issue. It probably depends more on the experience of the tech than the actual equipment.
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how much for an alignment?? sounds like someone is in the rip off business more than the alignment business
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Originally Posted by m3to335
Really?
Most dealerships will want you to list a complaint (such as the car pulls to the left, etc.), then they'll put your car on the alignment rack and if anything is out of spec they'll realign your car to factory spec under warranty. You get this one, and it has to be early on. Factory alignments are a rough estimate at best, they're never exact and rarely within spec across all the measurements.

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'09 specs from sheet when my '11 was done (last alignment)

1st # = minimum 2nd # = maximum

Caster 7.50 8.50

Camber Front -1.50 -0.50
Camber Rear -1.70 -0.70

Toe Front -0.02 0.07
Toe Rear -0.02 0.07

Thrust Angle 0.10


From the first shop with '10 specs sheet shows:

Caster 7.1 8.3

Camber Front -1.5 -0.5
Camber Rear -1.9 -0.6

Toe Front -0.05 0.15
Toe Rear -0.05 0.15

Thrust 0.20
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OP, be glad you found someone to do a decent alignment incl. a dealer. It isn't easy to find a shop that knows what to do.
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Originally Posted by Lmmgr
Tried to save a few dollars and took my C7 to Tires Plus in Brandywine MD for an alignment. Well after their techs ( 2 of them) spent 1 hour aligning at cost of $191.44 for the Lifetime Alignment Service, my vette was still pulling to the right. Rather than taking it back to Tires Plus, I went to Waldorf Chevy after a co-worker criticized me for taking a sports car to a shop that works on Family cars and has never worked on a corvette. At Chevy, 1 technician spent 2 hours at a cost of $224.92. Chevy's alignment fixed the problem but was expensive. Got my money back at Tires Plus. Nothing about maintaining the C7 is cheap. Not complaining, I enjoy my C7.
Take it to any of the Winegardner shops. Stay away from Bayside.

That is all.

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One local Chevy dealer specializes in Vettes (Purifoy) here in Colorado. charged me $80. Full four wheel alignment with negative camber set at -1.1 at my request. Included print out.
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Why would GM design a pull to the right?? Thanks

Originally Posted by Jet Vet
Here's an interesting note on the factory alignment that I have referred to in other posts. The C7 as designed by GM has a built in pull to the right, and the front camber setting is asymmetric to account for it (see the chart above, where the right front camber is adjusted with an extra -0.3 degrees compared to the left). This was pointed out to me by the race team at Pfadt Engineering. So if you have an alignment change for the track, or have one done anywhere but the dealer, be sure they have the correct numbers, or you will get that pull to the right.

Btw, my dealer only charged me $125 for a full 4-wheel alignment (I had it modified for both street and track use).

JV
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I don't imagine they designed it in on purpose, but since it's there the factory alignment specs include a correction factor.

JV

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Originally Posted by Jet Vet
Here's an interesting note on the factory alignment that I have referred to in other posts. The C7 as designed by GM has a built in pull to the right, and the front camber setting is asymmetric to account for it (see the chart above, where the right front camber is adjusted with an extra -0.3 degrees compared to the left). This was pointed out to me by the race team at Pfadt Engineering. So if you have an alignment change for the track, or have one done anywhere but the dealer, be sure they have the correct numbers, or you will get that pull to the right.

Btw, my dealer only charged me $125 for a full 4-wheel alignment (I had it modified for both street and track use).

JV
Yet the track alignment specs have no such imbalance, which leads me to believe the standard alignment is to offset crowned roads, not because the car pulls to the right.
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70.00 here, set to whatever specs I want and I can watch. Another 70.00 to return to stock after track days.
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