Do not purchase C7 Corvette Stingray skip shift eliminator CAGS
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You don't need to hire a lawyer ? 
Of course you don't.Any one can file a case pro se. However, we're not talking the filing of a small claims court case in front of a local justice of the peace. The truth of the matter is this. The majority of the people that modify their cars don't have the assets necessary for a prolonged litigation battle with the likes of GM. They have car payments, house payments, a portion of the kids orthodontist's boat payment .......... 
The bankruptcy lawyers would be circling like our well know TX turkey buzzards.
Of course you don't.Any one can file a case pro se. However, we're not talking the filing of a small claims court case in front of a local justice of the peace. The truth of the matter is this. The majority of the people that modify their cars don't have the assets necessary for a prolonged litigation battle with the likes of GM. They have car payments, house payments, a portion of the kids orthodontist's boat payment .......... The bankruptcy lawyers would be circling like our well know TX turkey buzzards.I have a feeling the ones who are afraid of a tune are also the ones who roll over when push comes to shove. And, no, anger, red faces, and belligerence are not needed in that process.
Anyways, I am not going to argue a point in which I have experience with those who do not. In the end, you will get a tune or you won't, really makes no difference to me.
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I purchased this part from Amazon by West Coast Corvette. My 2014 C7 fried the part and refused to shift into reverse (must be a design joke by GM Engineers to fry these bypass after market parts and disable reverse gear). Fortunately I bought it from Amazon and will get a refund. I won't get back the time I wasted installing this $19 piece of junk in my $60k C7.
BTW do attend the Ron Fellows Performance Driving School. I attended the Level 1 course 21-23 Dec 2015,and was extremely pleased. All the positive threads on this school r correct. Actually have not seen any negative write ups.
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BTW do attend the Ron Fellows Performance Driving School. I attended the Level 1 course 21-23 Dec 2015,and was extremely pleased. All the positive threads on this school r correct. Actually have not seen any negative write ups.
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My CAGS eliminator works fine on my Z, recommend you just get a replacement.
To all those who say you don't need them... Do you ever pull forward to make a left hand turn and shift early into 2nd so you can do a strong pull to 70 or so? That is the classic interference time of the CAGS for me, and drove me nuts until I got my eliminator.
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Exactly - i'm not saying we should try to screw the dealerships/manufacturers...if you did install something that you know messed up the car, take it like a man.
But, for example, when the local Subaru dealership tried to screw me on an intercooler fix because I had installed an axle-back exhaust, I fought them, and they ended up repaying me
But, for example, when the local Subaru dealership tried to screw me on an intercooler fix because I had installed an axle-back exhaust, I fought them, and they ended up repaying me
Something like trying to gig someone for their exhaust when the engine messes up is plain b/s.
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OP, Get under the car and remove the plug u bought with the resistor in it, reinstall the factory harness plug back into the reverse lockout solenoid.
Then, unplug the harness connector at the skip shift solenoid and plug the resistor plug there. Enjoy 3 shots Patron tequila and relax.
Happy thread ending and no one gets sued
Then, unplug the harness connector at the skip shift solenoid and plug the resistor plug there. Enjoy 3 shots Patron tequila and relax.
Happy thread ending and no one gets sued
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No one is going to court. If a service advisor or manager tells you, "Uh GM told us they won't warranty this repair because your checksum doesn't match (or whatever term they use), you have options. Or you can just say, "Ok."
I have a feeling the ones who are afraid of a tune are also the ones who roll over when push comes to shove. And, no, anger, red faces, and belligerence are not needed in that process.
Anyways, I am not going to argue a point in which I have experience with those who do not. In the end, you will get a tune or you won't, really makes no difference to me.
I have a feeling the ones who are afraid of a tune are also the ones who roll over when push comes to shove. And, no, anger, red faces, and belligerence are not needed in that process.
Anyways, I am not going to argue a point in which I have experience with those who do not. In the end, you will get a tune or you won't, really makes no difference to me.
I love modding cars. tuning increases your risk of hassle with warranty and dealerships. its as simple as that. doesnt matter if the tune was at fault or not. for major repairs.
putting money aside. i dont have time to fight GM on warranty repairs. my corvette is a my daily driver. If something goes bad, i need the car fixed today. When i was driving my modded camaro. I had a 3 series i was daily driving.
GM CAN illegally go against the warranty act (or w/e its called). then i have to go to court, spend money and time. a tune that gave me at most 20HP, better throttle response, and deletion of cags.
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my Ls3 camaro. had cam,heads, headers, intake, stage 2 suspension and of course a custom dyno tune.
I love modding cars. tuning increases your risk of hassle with warranty and dealerships. its as simple as that. doesnt matter if the tune was at fault or not. for major repairs.
putting money aside. i dont have time to fight GM on warranty repairs. my corvette is a my daily driver. If something goes bad, i need the car fixed today. When i was driving my modded camaro. I had a 3 series i was daily driving.
GM CAN illegally go against the warranty act (or w/e its called). then i have to go to court, spend money and time. a tune that gave me at most 20HP, better throttle response, and deletion of cags.
I love modding cars. tuning increases your risk of hassle with warranty and dealerships. its as simple as that. doesnt matter if the tune was at fault or not. for major repairs.
putting money aside. i dont have time to fight GM on warranty repairs. my corvette is a my daily driver. If something goes bad, i need the car fixed today. When i was driving my modded camaro. I had a 3 series i was daily driving.
GM CAN illegally go against the warranty act (or w/e its called). then i have to go to court, spend money and time. a tune that gave me at most 20HP, better throttle response, and deletion of cags.
personally, I would rather pay a little less for a car and get no powertrain warranty (yes I want a warranty on the window motor and radio). my C7 had about 1500 miles on it when I built the 416 and about 3000 when I added the supercharger.
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No one is going to court. If a service advisor or manager tells you, "Uh GM told us they won't warranty this repair because your checksum doesn't match (or whatever term they use), you have options. Or you can just say, "Ok."
I have a feeling the ones who are afraid of a tune are also the ones who roll over when push comes to shove. And, no, anger, red faces, and belligerence are not needed in that process.
Anyways, I am not going to argue a point in which I have experience with those who do not. In the end, you will get a tune or you won't, really makes no difference to me.
I have a feeling the ones who are afraid of a tune are also the ones who roll over when push comes to shove. And, no, anger, red faces, and belligerence are not needed in that process.
Anyways, I am not going to argue a point in which I have experience with those who do not. In the end, you will get a tune or you won't, really makes no difference to me.
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Why not help your fellow forum members then that may be faced with such an issue. Visit a qualified trust attorney. Have an irrevocable trust set up of of say $500,000.00 minimum with the residuals to further its growth. Said trust will be for the use only of verified forum members for the purposes of litigation against GM as pertains to denied warranty claims resulting from performance modifications. The ball is now in your court.
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Just when does skip shift bother your? It is only active between 14 and 19 mph at light throttle. In normal traffic or driving without any cars around it shouldn't bother you at all. In heavy slow moving traffic it can and all you have to do is shift to second before you get to 14 mph. Guess what the car handles it just fine!!!! You don't have to waste money on a $20 part or a $2 fuse (if that still works in the C7) or on a tune. So easy to avoid it is funny people get torqued up over it when all they have to use the blob of goo God put between their ears.
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Just when does skip shift bother your? It is only active between 14 and 19 mph at light throttle. In normal traffic or driving without any cars around it shouldn't bother you at all. In heavy slow moving traffic it can and all you have to do is shift to second before you get to 14 mph. Guess what the car handles it just fine!!!! You don't have to waste money on a $20 part or a $2 fuse (if that still works in the C7) or on a tune. So easy to avoid it is funny people get torqued up over it when all they have to use the blob of goo God put between their ears.
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how do you know, because you read it online?
it's 100% against the law to deny a warranty claim without first determining a cause of failure and if there is an aftermarket change the claim that it is the cause needs to hold up in court. GM doesn't want to go to court, no manufacturer does, just setting foot inside costs more than just fixing the car.
if your engine burns up because it has been run lean or has ridiculous spark timing values then it is the tune's fault. if a valve spring breaks or the crankshaft bearings are mangled, they are not going to be able to blame the tune, especially when so many LT1's are having these thrust bearing failures.
you may not want to deal with fighting it, and that's up to you. keep your car stock and drive it around, that's something to do.
please don't put it out there that if you get a tune we are all screwed and its the end of the world. I did spend my share of years approving and denying warranty claims for a major auto manuf.....most approvals don't even make it past the dealership level.
it's 100% against the law to deny a warranty claim without first determining a cause of failure and if there is an aftermarket change the claim that it is the cause needs to hold up in court. GM doesn't want to go to court, no manufacturer does, just setting foot inside costs more than just fixing the car.
if your engine burns up because it has been run lean or has ridiculous spark timing values then it is the tune's fault. if a valve spring breaks or the crankshaft bearings are mangled, they are not going to be able to blame the tune, especially when so many LT1's are having these thrust bearing failures.
you may not want to deal with fighting it, and that's up to you. keep your car stock and drive it around, that's something to do.
please don't put it out there that if you get a tune we are all screwed and its the end of the world. I did spend my share of years approving and denying warranty claims for a major auto manuf.....most approvals don't even make it past the dealership level.
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You made the above statement in your post number 11 in response to MikeLsx. All I am saying is if you are so sure of what you posted, why won't you back it up with a cash defense fund to help any litigant ? You have nothing to loose if the funds are never used. at some point in time they would be returned to you along with the accumulated intrest.
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Why are you so intent on changing the subject ? It would matter not one iota If I am from Houston or Amarillo.