C7 engine problems, would you by a C7 today?





I've owned 4 vette's, drive them hard and never had any issues yet. My current c7 is s/c, headers & meth and I drive it like I stole it and she is just fine.
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The real only other issues common to all are GDI related, and those can be avoided if done properly from the start.
These are awesome cars for the $ and what they do, and all mass produced vehicles will have issues, just understanding what to watch for and how to properly care for them is key.
I plan on selling mine in a few years because i honestly dont feel this car is going to last for years. The engine has the flawed GDI design, AFM, and electric diff (Z51).
Last edited by MikeLsx; Jan 11, 2016 at 11:28 AM.
I plan on selling mine in a few years because i honestly dont feel this car is going to last for years. The engine has the flawed GDI design, AFM, and electric diff (Z51).


I've owned 4 vette's, drive them hard and never had any issues yet. My current c7 is s/c, headers & meth and I drive it like I stole it and she is just fine.
How many miles do you have?





I plan on selling mine in a few years because i honestly dont feel this car is going to last for years. The engine has the flawed GDI design, AFM, and electric diff (Z51).
Heh ............. That may just be G M's mindset. If they can get peeps back to trading in every three years, just think how much profit they'd make ................ Damn would that generate so cool dividends !
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C7 with 5500 miles on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pz0zTQ1bz0
I really want to inspect a C7 w/50k miles on it to see the amount of buildup at that many miles.
Anyone with one that is willing to inspect, let me know!!!
You may get your wish some time within the next year. I have just under 4k miles on my '16 that I took delivery of on the 14th of Dec. Considering my next trip in late spring will be right at 5k miles by its self ........
There are always engine failures with everycar made and the guys crying about it are really really loud even when GM takes care of it free of charge and I get that, But like the old saying goes "make a customer happy they tell everyone in the parking lot how great it was, make someone unhappy and they tell everyone in town about it" So you may of heard of a couple horror stories but trust me for every "one" unhappy vette owner there are a million "happy" ones you just don't hear about it.
By far the best most distinctive sports car ever ever ever built. buy one and the odd's are in your favor you wont be the 1 in a million. And I also agree and I was a tech for 20 years myself once the engine gets thru the first 1500 miles the engine life is good to go. paul
side note: I just saw a 2000 vette on craiglist, I was reaind thru the details and noticed he had 286,000 miles on it. I made the guy an offer and he thinks he is going to take it. that's a pretty good story that if you take care of the car (oil changes, transmission changes etc..) the car will last along time. Since I have multiple cars and bikes I only put about 3k on my vette's a year so to get to 286,000 miles on a car for me would take ruffly 95.33 years. that's kjinda funny when you look at it that way, lol. paul
Last edited by HANNY; Jan 13, 2016 at 12:05 AM.
There are always engine failures with everycar made and the guys crying about it are really really loud even when GM takes care of it free of charge and I get that, But like the old saying goes "make a customer happy they tell everyone in the parking lot how great it was, make someone unhappy and they tell everyone in town about it" So you may of heard of a couple horror stories but trust me for every "one" unhappy vette owner there are a million "happy" ones you just don't hear about it.
By far the best most distinctive sports car ever ever ever built. buy one and the odd's are in your favor you wont be the 1 in a million. And I also agree and I was a tech for 20 years myself once the engine gets thru the first 1500 miles the engine life is good to go. paul
side note: I just saw a 2000 vette on craiglist, I was reaind thru the details and noticed he had 286,000 miles on it. I made the guy an offer and he thinks he is going to take it. that's a pretty good story that if you take care of the car (oil changes, transmission changes etc..) the car will last along time. Since I have multiple cars and bikes I only put about 3k on my vette's a year so to get to 286,000 miles on a car for me would take ruffly 95.33 years. that's kjinda funny when you look at it that way, lol. paul
GM introduced a lot of new tech to the corvette. Stuff like direction injection (which is proven to be problematic), AFM, more electronics,more dry sumps, more dealership techs that dont understand corvettes etc..
I would say the best engine GM made in recent history is the LS3. Was port injection and didnt have any of the fuel saving crap the LT1 has. It was simple to take apart also.
If i wanted to keep my corvette for many many years. I would be tempted to get a Ls7 engine swap instead of trying to make the LT1 better.
with all that said. I do feel however the c7 is probably a very reliable car short term. I think my corvette will be somewhat problem feel until the next generation comes out.
Last edited by MikeLsx; Jan 13, 2016 at 04:02 AM.




Go cruise other forms for other makes and models. You will find just as many issues and rants.
Like we say here.....It just takes one "Oh Boy!" to ruin many, many "Atta boys". Which can be kind of like reading a bad C7 post on forums. Yea problems exists but I will always roll the dice with these cars...

BTW, My 2014 is awesome!
Ed
Last edited by TKO Performance; Jan 13, 2016 at 10:21 AM.
There are always engine failures with everycar made and the guys crying about it are really really loud even when GM takes care of it free of charge and I get that, But like the old saying goes "make a customer happy they tell everyone in the parking lot how great it was, make someone unhappy and they tell everyone in town about it" So you may of heard of a couple horror stories but trust me for every "one" unhappy vette owner there are a million "happy" ones you just don't hear about it.
By far the best most distinctive sports car ever ever ever built. buy one and the odd's are in your favor you wont be the 1 in a million. And I also agree and I was a tech for 20 years myself once the engine gets thru the first 1500 miles the engine life is good to go. paul
side note: I just saw a 2000 vette on craiglist, I was reaind thru the details and noticed he had 286,000 miles on it. I made the guy an offer and he thinks he is going to take it. that's a pretty good story that if you take care of the car (oil changes, transmission changes etc..) the car will last along time. Since I have multiple cars and bikes I only put about 3k on my vette's a year so to get to 286,000 miles on a car for me would take ruffly 95.33 years. that's kjinda funny when you look at it that way, lol. paul
Go cruise other forms for other makes and models. You will find just as many issues and rants.
Like we say here.....It just takes one "Oh Boy!" to ruin many, many "Atta boys". Which can be kind of like reading a bad C7 post on forums. Yea problems exists but I will always roll the dice with these cars...

BTW, My 2014 is awesome!
Ed
Can you pull your IM and take some close-ups of your intake valves? How many miles on it to date? Really want to see higher mileage examples to get an idea of progression.

C7 with 5500 miles on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pz0zTQ1bz0
I really want to inspect a C7 w/50k miles on it to see the amount of buildup at that many miles.
Anyone with one that is willing to inspect, let me know!!!
My E90 ('07-'10'ish) BMW forums have stories of folks doing 'walnut blasting' (google it) on direct injection motors with as few as 20-30K miles. There are some pretty gnarly pics out there of valves that have so much carbon on them that the valve stem looks like a 'blob'.
I've read about the same issues on the CTS forums.
When the detergent in the gasoline no longer can clean your valves (because the intake tract is now dry, instead of wet) what can you expect?





My E90 ('07-'10'ish) BMW forums have stories of folks doing 'walnut blasting' (google it) on direct injection motors with as few as 20-30K miles. There are some pretty gnarly pics out there of valves that have so much carbon on them that the valve stem looks like a 'blob'.
I've read about the same issues on the CTS forums.
When the detergent in the gasoline no longer can clean your valves (because the intake tract is now dry, instead of wet) what can you expect?

Defeating the PCV systems functions like breather/tanks will cause the engine to wear far more rapidly by leaving most all of the damaging combustion by-products in the crankcase contaminating the engine oil, so only a truly effective separation system will stop most of this from occurring. Elite E2-X or ColoradoSPeed's separators.
My E90 ('07-'10'ish) BMW forums have stories of folks doing 'walnut blasting' (google it) on direct injection motors with as few as 20-30K miles. There are some pretty gnarly pics out there of valves that have so much carbon on them that the valve stem looks like a 'blob'.
I've read about the same issues on the CTS forums.
When the detergent in the gasoline no longer can clean your valves (because the intake tract is now dry, instead of wet) what can you expect?
https://www.google.com/search?q=dire...w=1600&bih=775
These are NOT your old port injection engines that eliminated these issues that used to be present in carbureted engines of old, it is now back and many times more severe than ever.
Those mushroom deposits show how these are also wearing the valve guides prematurely as with each cycle of the valve the stem entering the guide is pulling some into the guide and wearing the softer guide.
As more mile accumulate and we study more, we find more issue long term when to begin with we assumed it was just degradation in power and economy/efficiency from the flow disruption, but were seeing far more issues.
The true OEM solution is still a few years away, it involves an external separation systems like those mentioned, but that never need to be end user emptied. That design is complete and proven to meet all emission standards, but Patent is in the Provisional stage currently before it is presented to the Automakers.
Excellent activity here!!! Great understanding Muncie!













