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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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My name is Steve Schardt and I am the Founder and Sales Manager for Forgeline Motorsports. My user name has the word resource and that is want i would like to be for any one that has questions about wheel, A resource. We have been doing this for almost 25 years and i will give you my honest opinion with out saying anything derogatory. Attached is a article about wheel engineering and how race wheels are engineered. It gets pretty technical and that is why i wanted to place it here. If you have any questions please send them in.... I may not know the answer but i have a few engineers down the hall that do!
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Welcome Steve its glad to have you on board! Forgeline without question doesnt cut corners and something to be said about how incredibly well engineered your wheels are and not to mention made in USA!!!
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Thanks Steve. I'm friends with Jeremy H. He had a black Pontiac G8 GT with your wheels and now has a Daytona Sunrise Orange C7 Z51 with your wheels. He has nothing but praise for you and your wheels. Glad to see you take the time to be a resource for us. One of these days, I'd like to get a set of wheels like Jeremy's.
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Originally Posted by lakemg
Thanks Steve. I'm friends with Jeremy H. He had a black Pontiac G8 GT with your wheels and now has a Daytona Sunrise Orange C7 Z51 with your wheels. He has nothing but praise for you and your wheels. Glad to see you take the time to be a resource for us. One of these days, I'd like to get a set of wheels like Jeremy's.
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 10:59 PM
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Thanks for the post and insight on wheels!

I'm really looking hard at the R101 wheels and savings me pennies
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Welcome to the forum! Love my VX1's.
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Steve,

My thanks for actually listing (and putting a sticker on the wheels) the load rating on each wheel. I don't know of anyone else that does that. And with the trend to lighter and lighter wheels that is very important particularly if you are going to run sticky tires and downforce to put more stress on the wheels.
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Welcome to the forum. I have Forgelines on my 15 Z51 and will most likely purchase a set for my ZL1 in the spring.
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Good stuff. Can you talk a bit about impact force like from a curb strike or pot hole? The C7 Z06 weighs ~3800 lbs with a driver and a lot of us are bending or cracking the stock rims (almost always on the inside lip). The stiff sidewall run flats don't have much give and I'm sure the width of the wheels and low profile don't help either.

How much additional strength can we expect to gain by going with a quality forged wheel over the OEM wheels?
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Great question. I have been reading a lot of posts with this problem with the OEM wheel. You are right, the run flat and low profile tires do not help!!. A well designed and engineered Forged monoblock will be 30 % stronger than cast wheels. However in the weakest part of the wheel for impacts, the inner part of the wheel, a forged wheel would not crack. It would also take a heavier blow to the rim with out bending. What is that amount..?? Hard to say. I will say this, A forged wheel can be straightened and we have the capability here to do that. We have sold a few wheels over 25 years and we do not straighten that many.......Does that help?
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Let me ask another question, when should you replace track wheels? Is there a certain amount of hours/days/years or do you just keep inspecting for cracks and then replace? Is there some sort of professional inspection we should have done at a specified interval to look for strees fractures that may not be visible?

As you know, quality track wheels are very expensive and nobody wants to consider them a consumable item. There's also a strong market for use track wheels since the C6 Z06/GS/ZR1 and the C7 Z06/GS all share the same desired track wheel sizes. Just look at how quickly a used set of CCW, Finspeed, or Forgeline 18" wheels is snapped up when posted in the for sale section.

As a result there are a lot of folks running track wheels that may be 10 or more years old. So how do we know when it's time to chuck your track wheels and get another set?

Thanks.
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Great question not sure there is a definitive answer for that. We have had out 18" track GA1Rs by Forgine for 3 yrs now with no issues, and honestly I havent even inspected them with no priblems at track besides the Z over heating, ughhh. We have over 750HP with mods on our C7R and no way would run anything else on the track even though offered lower model sets at no cost. I cant put a value on the quality Forgeline churns out for the track and all my Porsche guys use em as well!

Steve maybe you can add some insight here...

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welcome Steve!

remember when we did these? oh boy do i always make things complicated!

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What happened to Steve?
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What happened to Steve?
Lol hes here but super busy in the shop building wheels, he cant visit everyday like us junkies, lol
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Steve's not here man.
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Lol hes out till 19th
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