I had to replace the seat memory modules (k40) on both my passenger and drivers seat in my 2LT 2016 stingray with new ones from GM. New part numbers are 13517130 and 13517131.

My problem is that I cannot program them with SPS. I can program any other module in the car but the seat modules, it errors out every time. I have check both power and ground at the modules and they are good. I've tried unplugging the switches and motors and still it errors out. SPS is talking to the module because in SPS if I 'Read ECU' it will display some data, I don't know what it means, but it does show my VIN and the module part number.

If I go to GDS2 to do trouble shooting it will not read any DTC's. I can't remember exactly what it displays but it is talking because it does not say no communication like it did with the old modules. If I try to display the module data or try to control the seats in GDS2 it tells me something like Module has blocked command because it is not supported. I will have to save the screen shots again and post them. For some reason I must not have saved them.

Anyone have any ideas on things to try? I wouldn't mind trying a used module so if anyone has one they want to sell let me know. Thanks!

 

Here is what I get in GDS2 when I try to read the DTC's, get the control module status and try to command an operatrion of moving the seat.

 

Are the modules plugged in correctly? I get a similar message and I've removed my seats. I can't remember now. If you scan for dtc's do you get anything on the seat modules? Are you sure these are the correct modules? Do the seats work fine otherwise? If the seats work fine and you can set the memory I wouldn't worry about it. If not you may have the wrong modules or they may not be connected properly. I'd check for dtc's first.

 

Yeah they are plugged in correctly the connectors are short enough that you could really only plug them in in the correct spot. Nope can't read the module DTC's I get the error shown above on first image and no other DTC's come up. According to GM they are the correct modules. No, the seats do not work at all, just the heat and cooling fans work because they don't go through the module. I'm hoping to find some used modules to buy so I can try them. There are a number of variations of part numbers but they say I have the latest version and the right one? Thanks

 

I think the 'service not supported' and 'conditions not correct' errors are because they're not programmed. What is the error code you get when SPS fails?

 

Jeff - I think you are right about them giving me those errors because they are not programmed.

I some how managed not to save the screen shots of the programming errors. I will redo them on Sunday and post the results. Thanks.

 

This is what I get when it errors out. Thanks!

 

I might need to dig into some more info I've got at home. But at a glance, it's looking like the modules are rejecting the commands. A2 asks the module to report it's programmed status, and the module responds with a 22 error code. 22 means the conditions are wrong or the programming commands came out of order. B0 is the request for the module to provide its diagnostic address. I'm not sure what an FD response means in that case. EE is just the final failure code. Programming ended in error.

Here's the only things I can think of right now. Did you do "Reprogram" or "Replace and Program" ? You should be using the replace option since these are new modules. I don't think you need security access, but since the airbags are involved, maybe you do? If you've got access to SI, check the control module references for these. There may be some preparation step or condition we're not aware of.

This is a long shot, but is anything else wired into the car? Aftermarket throttle controller, radar detector, anything like that? These seat modules are low speed / single wire GMLAN devices. I wonder if something else on the bus isn't responding to the request to stop talking while programming is going on.

 

I did the "Replace and Program" after that failed a bunch of times I tried just "Reprogam" but got the same result. I've looked in the service manual and there is nothing special that is required. From what I can tell the air bags do not go through this module and the cooling and heating function do not as well because they work and I do not have any airbag DTC's.

No aftermarket anything on the car.

I've also noticed that the infotainment system does not have any of the seat settings when I go into the "comfort and convenience". I'm guessing because it cant talk to the seat modules because they have no programming. I'm still searching for a used module to buy, I would really like to give that a try just because I don't know what else to do...but I've been told these are the right ones according to GM.

 

There's really weird. I'll check some other info I have tonight, but I'm kind of at a loss. You might need to call this in to tech support.

 

Hi, has this issue been resolved? I'm having the same issue, using the same part number control modules.

 

No luck, still unable to program the drivers or passengers seat module.

 

Wow that's unreal. I called ACDelco and they told me since my car is a salvage car that they won't help me as they don't know the condition of my car. They advise for me to take it to a dealer. What a rip off. I re flashed all my modules for the exception of the ebcm and seat module as both have the same issue. One thing to keep in mind is that there may be other components that may not work correctly if they require input from these modules. Greed run rampage at GM!

Yesterday, I was able to re flashed drivers module but the passenger is still un programmable.

 

Yeah same response I received from ACDelco. Not sure why, I paid the subscription fee like everyone else, they could at least spend some time trying to help. I get it they can't spend days with me but come on a hour or two.

I was able to reprogram everything as well (didn't have to do the ebcm) and everything in my car works perfectly except the power seats and power mirrors because they tie into the memory function of the seat module.

Did you do anything special to re-flash the drivers seat module? I may have to pull the car out and try mine again. I would really like to get the seats working.

 

Nothing especial it just programmed, I did have the passenger seat disconnected thou. When I call acdelco they told me the same thing. I have called them twice and both time the similar outcome. On the second time they deactivated my account. I think they are screwing people because on the first time they told me I needed to take it to a dealer, the second time they said GM does not allows the car to be salvaged or rebuilt.( so why do insurance company sell them as such?) I bet an attorney letter may help. It would be nice if we could find one on the forum that is willing to help.

 

Well that's BS they deactivated your account! I don'e see how it's any of their business if the car is a salvage or rebuild, if you pay the dam fee you should be able to get the same benefits as everyone else.

I going to have to unplug my passenger seat and try programming the drivers, I hope I get as lucky as you and it programs. Really don't want to go pay the dealership. I guess if it was a guarantee they could program it and it cost me a $100 or $150 I would bite the bullet but they will charge me regardless even if they get the same errors.

 

Is it a flooded car? i have one flooded and i did get this message. Now i have changed aout evere harness in the car and every modules, every buttons, driver seat. The passanger seat have i not replace yet only new motors and so on and i got the same message. I have memory seat and i think thats is the problem, the memory from seats data cable goes thrue doors and window motors to the mirrors. I have now a new set of window motors but i have not installed it yet so i dont know if it works.

 

Mine was a flood car. I can manually move my seat by jumpering 12V to the motors so all my motors are working.

Yeah you are correct the data for the Drivers memory seat passes through the door. But I don't believe the passenger side does, so not sure why it errors out the same. I think they have a problem with the software for the seat modules, and if Dale002 was able to program his drivers seat I wonder if they finally looked into it and revised the software?

 

No they haven't. I have a new account and paid once again and same result with the pass. seat module. I'm not calling them again. I communicated with a member of this forum who had the same issue as I did with the ebcm and he was able to get a security code from acdelco. His car was a flooded one as well. It's a scam to get a person to take their car to the dealer where they will tell you how screwed up it is and give you an outrageous estimate or to get you to purchase a new one.

 

have you tried a new bmc? it sits very low as the seat modules and is like 75$ from gmpartsonline