Holley CAI -- 21HP!
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Drifting
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Holley CAI -- 21HP!
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Interesting. I see various design elements from the other intakes already on the market. Appears the engineers are starting to piece together what they like, and discarding what they don't, from currently available products.
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Yeah, right. And, it's commonly acknowledged the new GM CAI produces nothing on the Stingray.
As my dyno guy (who did NASCAR work for years) once said, "I can 'jiggle' things and get any numbers ya want... if I were so inclined."
As my dyno guy (who did NASCAR work for years) once said, "I can 'jiggle' things and get any numbers ya want... if I were so inclined."
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Originally Posted by Avanti
Yeah, right. And, it's commonly acknowledged the new GM CAI produces nothing on the Stingray.
As my dyno guy (who did NASCAR work for years) once said, "I can 'jiggle' things and get any numbers ya want... if I were so inclined."
As my dyno guy (who did NASCAR work for years) once said, "I can 'jiggle' things and get any numbers ya want... if I were so inclined."
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Would love to see a plot of the AFR curve on the before and after dyno runs. Without tuning the car is probably running much more lean with the new intake which is what actually created the power while in turn putting the engine very close to detonating.
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have you seen how rich these go up top when they go into cat over temp? leaning them out from an intake won't be a bad thing at all haha.
Pro
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I understand but in my mind there is a difference between leaning a car out with a part and leaning a car out with a tune. I would still like to see the plots. I think people need to understand where the power is actually coming from.
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It may be $10 in plastic, but someone had to put a lot of design time into it to make it happen. As someone who designs, manufacturers and sells aftermarket parts I know what it takes to make something new and have no problems with a company making money off of it.
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I don't mind them making money, and BTW the Holley unit looks a lot like older AFE unit so how much design did they do, but I do have an objection to when things are priced WAY over the price of materials. They could sell it for $100 and still make loads and I'd buy one, but at $350 they are missing a lot of sales IMHO.
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Drop-in air filters alone sell for ~$100, and companies are having no problems moving them there. I got my AFE intake with both dry and oiled filters during the initial group buy back in 2014 for something like $350-375 and feel like I got a steal.
Last edited by Kracka; Jun 29, 2018 at 10:27 AM.
Burning Brakes
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This is an older post, but as a new C7 owner, I think that $350 for 20 rear wheel HP is a bargain! I have subscribed to Vette mag forever, saw the article on the ZO6 system, and started checking on this-seems like a great deal to me!!
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Without seeing the AFR the dyno tests are worthless. Once the ECU changes the Fuel Trims some of this 21HP gain will be negated. These people do not leave the AFR out on accident, it's done on purpose. There is likely a little bit of power to be had but not 21HP.