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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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I'm curious what other experience with regard to C7 Manual Transmission Shifting? It seems to me the synchros are incredibly slow, not something I would expect from a performance car. Whether I shift 1-2 or let the car guide from 1-4, I find if shifts way smoother if I allow a noticeable pause between gears.

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Originally Posted by 2016SilverZ06
Years of Miata ownership and track days is my primary reference. I had both 5 speed and 6 speed and never had any issue with slow syncros. No wonder the A8 has faster 0-60 time than M7.
That is more about launching and gearing Vs shifting. Z06 can do 0 to 67 mph in low gear so it doesn't matter how fast a transmission shifts if it doesn't need to shift at all. Once warm the C7 M7 transmissions shift fine with little effort. I can shift mine quickly using my finger tips and the palm of my hand.

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Quality aftermarket synthetic fluid helps a lot. The OEM stuff is junk. My personal choice is Redline D4. 2014 Z51 w/49k miles and it shifts better now than it did when brand new. I also have the ZIP Corvette shifter bushings and TMOD Customs shifter box.

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Good fluid makes a tremendous difference.
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Redline D4ATF here.
And MGW Shifter.
Smooth as silk now.
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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As others have mentioned,a better fluid makes a diff.I use Amsoil in my '17.
One note....when I changed mine,I noticed that it was about 1/2 qt low from the factory.

Of course,Tremecs are known to be notchy when cold.Mine was for the first 1000 miles or so.
Miles & better fluid did the trick for me.
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Originally Posted by dbaker
As others have mentioned,a better fluid makes a diff.I use Amsoil in my '17.
One note....when I changed mine,I noticed that it was about 1/2 qt low from the factory.

Of course,Tremecs are known to be notchy when cold.Mine was for the first 1000 miles or so.
Miles & better fluid did the trick for me.
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GM makes a Synchromesh fluid that I have used in the past in a T56 that is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Bob U
GM makes a Synchromesh fluid that I have used in the past in a T56 that is awesome.
That is not the correct fluid for our TREMEC.
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I changed fluid in my C5 within a week of it arriving, but I didn't see it made that much difference. Hence, I didn't bother with my C7. Mine doesn't bother me; indeed, it isn't that much different than any other manual, apart from the one in my wife's '99 Miata Sport. I find temperature of the unit and fluid matters... but, your clunkiness may differ. Happy New Year.
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Originally Posted by 2016SilverZ06
I'm curious what other experience with regard to C7 Manual Transmission Shifting? It seems to me the synchros are incredibly slow, not something I would expect from a performance car. Whether I shift 1-2 or let the car guide from 1-4, I find if shifts way smoother if I allow a noticeable pause between gears.
I feel my 19Z does this exact same thing. Doesnt really matter if it is cold or warm. Based on my research from the excellent forum member postings, I decided to change out the stock fluid to Redline D4ATF. We will find out this Spring if it works.
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Originally Posted by ssmith512
I feel my 19Z does this exact same thing. Doesnt really matter if it is cold or warm. Based on my research from the excellent forum member postings, I decided to change out the stock fluid to Redline D4ATF. We will find out this Spring if it works.
Let us know how it works. I changed my fluid to Mobil-1 Synthetic Dexron-3 fluid and it made little, if any difference. My 2nd gear syncro often grinds a bit, even when the transmission is hot.
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Same issue as OP. Subscribed for more responses.
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I'll try a fluid change and see if that helps. Shifters and bushings may improve shift feel but as I said this seems like a slow synchro issue.
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Originally Posted by Avanti
I changed fluid in my C5 within a week of it arriving, but I didn't see it made that much difference. Hence, I didn't bother with my C7. Mine doesn't bother me; indeed, it isn't that much different than any other manual, apart from the one in my wife's '99 Miata Sport. I find temperature of the unit and fluid matters... but, your clunkiness may differ. Happy New Year.
Years of Miata ownership and track days is my primary reference. I had both 5 speed and 6 speed and never had any issue with slow syncros. No wonder the A8 has faster 0-60 time than M7.
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Keep in mind this transmission is designed to handle quite a bit more torque than a Miata gearbox! I'm a former S2000 owner so I get what you mean. After the mods I listed above, I would put this transmission in the top 3 that I've owned/modified in sports cars.

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Originally Posted by 2016SilverZ06
Years of Miata ownership and track days is my primary reference. I had both 5 speed and 6 speed and never had any issue with slow syncros. No wonder the A8 has faster 0-60 time than M7.
That is more about launching and gearing Vs shifting. Z06 can do 0 to 67 mph in low gear so it doesn't matter how fast a transmission shifts if it doesn't need to shift at all. Once warm the C7 M7 transmissions shift fine with little effort. I can shift mine quickly using my finger tips and the palm of my hand.

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IMO it shifts very smooth at a high RPM. To drive in the city or slow traffic the M7 doesn't hack it.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
That is more about launching and gearing Vs shifting. Z06 can do 0 to 67 mph in low gear so it doesn't matter how fast a transmission shifts if it doesn't need to shift at all. Once warm the C7 M7 transmissions shift fine with little effort. I can shift mine quickly using my finger tips and the palm of my hand.

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Bill was my instructor on a track event, and his shifts up and down are ridiculously fast and smooth. And, I agree that once the fluid is warm, the shift is effortless. I stick with factory recommended fluid. Go to Tremic website for info.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Quality aftermarket synthetic fluid helps a lot. The OEM stuff is junk. My personal choice is Redline D4. 2014 Z51 w/49k miles and it shifts better now than it did when brand new. I also have the ZIP Corvette shifter bushings and TMOD Customs shifter box.
Thanks. My '14 Z51 doesn't like 1st as it seems hard to engage and I grind it occasionally (temp doesn't matter). Other then that its decent - shifts well on track but can be a bit notchy or stiff around town. I went from the OEM fluid to Mobil 1 and noticed it was 1/2 quart low. Replacing the fluid helped a little, but I am being to think a shifter box might be the answer. I believe TMOD sells one that reduces the effort. I don't want a short shifter, I feel the throws are fine its just the engagement that seems off.
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Originally Posted by JMII
Thanks. My '14 Z51 doesn't like 1st as it seems hard to engage and I grind it occasionally (temp doesn't matter). Other then that its decent - shifts well on track but can be a bit notchy or stiff around town. I went from the OEM fluid to Mobil 1 and noticed it was 1/2 quart low. Replacing the fluid helped a little, but I am being to think a shifter box might be the answer. I believe TMOD sells one that reduces the effort. I don't want a short shifter, I feel the throws are fine its just the engagement that seems off.
You'll love the TMOD lower box! Incredible. I put together an install review with some tips/tricks that help it even more: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nd-review.html

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Go to Tremic website for info.
Specs: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...tr-6070-a.html

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