NPP retrofit
Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
time 11 - same error
this is where you go to your libraries and it says " this is where your imported libraries are located - ten times nothing there, this is trhe SAME issue I said was there three weeks ago
then its clear - nothing is there and nothing gets imported
SKETCHES THAT COULD NOT BE IMPORTED:
[PWM] Error: no ino file
[utility] Error: no ino file
[PWM_lib_resolution_example] There's already a sketch with this name in your Sketchbook, please rename it and try to import again.
[PWM_lib_example] There's already a sketch with this name in your Sketchbook, please rename it and try to import again.
this is where you go to your libraries and it says " this is where your imported libraries are located - ten times nothing there, this is trhe SAME issue I said was there three weeks ago
then its clear - nothing is there and nothing gets imported
Import details
SKETCHES THAT COULD NOT BE IMPORTED:
[PWM] Error: no ino file
[utility] Error: no ino file
[PWM_lib_resolution_example] There's already a sketch with this name in your Sketchbook, please rename it and try to import again.
[PWM_lib_example] There's already a sketch with this name in your Sketchbook, please rename it and try to import again.
Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
import directions:
Import all your sketches and libraries at once:
Compress the Arduino folder that contains all your sketches and custom libraries in .Zip format.
Make sure your libraries are in a folder called ‘libraries’. Be sure not to mix sketches and libraries in the same folder.
Remember that you can import libraries just in .Zip, while sketches can be in .Zip, .Ino or .Pde
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NOTE: You can also import your whole Sketchbook!
Import all your sketches and libraries at once:
Compress the Arduino folder that contains all your sketches and custom libraries in .Zip format.
Make sure your libraries are in a folder called ‘libraries’. Be sure not to mix sketches and libraries in the same folder.
Remember that you can import libraries just in .Zip, while sketches can be in .Zip, .Ino or .Pde
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Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
This means...
following directions...
that you import the .zip file - it doesn't take Einstein to figure this out, you downoladed from google the .zip version 5 dated Sept 2012, next???
this is
BROKEN!
following directions...
that you import the .zip file - it doesn't take Einstein to figure this out, you downoladed from google the .zip version 5 dated Sept 2012, next???
this is
BROKEN!
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I'm doing what I can to help you with this, but you are doing something wrong. You should open the Arduino ide (that's the Arduino software). Click the file menu and select new. Copy the code from the first post in the thread into the editor portion of your new sketch that was created. Go to the file menu and select save and name this new sketch something like "valvecode". Then you take the zip file for the pwm library that you downloaded and follow the tutorial that I pasted the link to in my previous reply to import it into your Arduino softwar. At this point you can click compile from the menu and that's it. It will compile. I will get some screen captures of the steps so that you can follow along and post them directly here.
I know that some of this stuff is probably new to you. I'd recommend that you Google "Arduino hello world tutorial" and follow a short example to get familiarity with the tools. But I will post some screenshots shortly
I know that some of this stuff is probably new to you. I'd recommend that you Google "Arduino hello world tutorial" and follow a short example to get familiarity with the tools. But I will post some screenshots shortly
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I take it that you are trying to use the online tool rather than the ide for Arduino. I haven't before worked this way with Arduino so bear with me, but to get your pwm library to upload to it, I think you'll need to first unzip the pwm library you downloaded then open the unzipped folder and then re zip the folder inside labeled pwm. Then try uploading your newly zipped pwm file using the online tool.
I've never used the online tool before. I'll see if I can simply create a sketch that already has the library installed that I can just share. Give me a little bit to try to get it to work
I've never used the online tool before. I'll see if I can simply create a sketch that already has the library installed that I can just share. Give me a little bit to try to get it to work
Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
I have also been thru the begining tutorials
when something is broke - those tutorials do not work.
This is too simple
Arduino APP online - my understanding is only way for the UNO
I have done as you said 5 times start new file - it does not compile, same error messages as from three weeks back
the directions I pasted and the errors too, they want the zip, the zip file is missing components
when something is broke - those tutorials do not work.
This is too simple
Arduino APP online - my understanding is only way for the UNO
I have done as you said 5 times start new file - it does not compile, same error messages as from three weeks back
the directions I pasted and the errors too, they want the zip, the zip file is missing components
Last edited by Argentimage; Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Arlington TX
Thanks a lot for all this info. I’m retrofitting the C7 NPP system into my C3. I would like to wire in a vacuum switch to create an automatic valve function, based on engine load. Is there any issue with using an adjustable vacuum switch instead of the wireless? I mean, setting the switch to close/open at say 6hg vacuum and connecting to the board. Would this fry something out by opening and closing back and forth rapidly?
Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
First - this is a module, No bunch of remote controls, that means it uses a switch that you can locate where you wish, usually on the dash or console.
Second it does require the use of the GM Valves, About $135 each, and Exhaust Mufflers that use the GM valves. Certianly C7 mufflers work, they are cheap, may be a bit big, have you verified fit?
That means you will Not be using vacuum and that is extremely un reliable, archaic, a drain on your engine system, etc. GM dropped it ASAP...meaning when an electrical solution was developed.
Second it does require the use of the GM Valves, About $135 each, and Exhaust Mufflers that use the GM valves. Certianly C7 mufflers work, they are cheap, may be a bit big, have you verified fit?
That means you will Not be using vacuum and that is extremely un reliable, archaic, a drain on your engine system, etc. GM dropped it ASAP...meaning when an electrical solution was developed.
Burning Brakes
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From: Arlington TX
First - this is a module, No bunch of remote controls, that means it uses a switch that you can locate where you wish, usually on the dash or console.
Second it does require the use of the GM Valves, About $135 each, and Exhaust Mufflers that use the GM valves. Certianly C7 mufflers work, they are cheap, may be a bit big, have you verified fit?
That means you will Not be using vacuum and that is extremely un reliable, archaic, a drain on your engine system, etc. GM dropped it ASAP...meaning when an electrical solution was developed.
Second it does require the use of the GM Valves, About $135 each, and Exhaust Mufflers that use the GM valves. Certianly C7 mufflers work, they are cheap, may be a bit big, have you verified fit?
That means you will Not be using vacuum and that is extremely un reliable, archaic, a drain on your engine system, etc. GM dropped it ASAP...meaning when an electrical solution was developed.
-Stroke
Drifting
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From: Metro MI too close to the D
I appreciate the response, but I'm not concerned with the things you addressed. My question is if a switch rapidly turning on/off would cause a short in the module or a calculation error. See, I'm taking this idea and applying a few additional features to allow multiple types of switching profiles for a standalone retrofit. One of those profiles will be based on engine vacuum using an adjustable vacuum switch. This applies a ground (for the Arduino switch location) when the engine drops below a certain vacuum level, sensing load on the engine as opposed to RPM or speed. I'm just not terribly familiar with these components or the Arduino's ability to process the switch signal quickly without malfunction.
-Stroke
-Stroke
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The Arduino is just a microcontroller. A microcontroller just runs in a loop waiting for input (or producing output or both). The Arduino runs at 16mhz clock speed which means that it cycles 16000000 times per second. The valves actuators are pulse width modulated (meaning they are not switched on and off, they have full power all the time and the variation in input pulse controls opening and closing of them. These actuators can keep up with cycling associated with the stock npp system without issue.
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what he appears to be trying to do is a combination of the vacuum system for C6, nothing at all related to using the GM C7 NPP valves.
what he appears to be trying to do is a combination of the vacuum system for C6, nothing at all related to using the GM C7 NPP valves.
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CityOf9Gates
what he appears to be trying to do is a combination of the vacuum system for C6, nothing at all related to using the GM C7 NPP valves.
what he appears to be trying to do is a combination of the vacuum system for C6, nothing at all related to using the GM C7 NPP valves.
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for the transistor, bc637 is the important part. You could get them from https://www.ebay.com/itm/18141779755...Cclp%3A2334524
Pin headers :
For the connectors: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...kaAgZyEALw_wcB
and you need pins for them: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...GAbJgHMkAugL5A
and these plugs to keep waterproof: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...ArAgtARhAXQF8g
Burning Brakes
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From: Arlington TX
The Arduino is just a microcontroller. A microcontroller just runs in a loop waiting for input (or producing output or both). The Arduino runs at 16mhz clock speed which means that it cycles 16000000 times per second. The valves actuators are pulse width modulated (meaning they are not switched on and off, they have full power all the time and the variation in input pulse controls opening and closing of them. These actuators can keep up with cycling associated with the stock npp system without issue.
Argentimage, I am not using any C6 components in this setup. The vacuum switch is a 3rd party device that opens and closed its circuit like a relay, but based on inches of Mercury as opposed to a electrical signal.
Last edited by Strokemyaxe; Apr 26, 2021 at 04:46 PM.