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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 01:30 PM
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I have a 2014 z51, what would new headers and a X pipe help, are they worth buying, and if so what brand should I go with?
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 01:40 PM
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Kooks is great. Headers make a huge change for the Vette.

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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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I did Texas Speed headers and x pipe. If you do them, you’ll also have to tune the car. I see you’re in Southern AR. If you don’t have something to tune the car or just don’t want to do it yourself, check out KK Performance in Little Rock.
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 12:43 AM
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Worth it?.....If in some alternate universe I were limited and could only make one mod to my car....it would be Headers/X-pipe.


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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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I had a stage 1 performance kit from Vengeance Racing installed on my 2015 3LT Z51 Stingray convertible. The upgrades included:

- 1 7/8" Kooks Long-tube Headers
- High Flow Catted X-pipe
- Mighty Mouse Solutions Catch Can
- 180 degree thermostat
- upgraded spark plugs and racing wire harness
- Dyno Tune

Before these upgrades, the car's dyno results clocked in at 369 RWHP and 384 max torque. After the upgrades the RWHP increased to 415 and the torque went up to 437 ft-lbs.

So added 46HP at the wheels and 53ft-lbs of torque. Pretty decent bump in power. Would've probably gotten a bit more HP if I went with the off-road X-pipe but decided I did not want to deal with the emission issues or resell-ability that may come with doing that. Here's my dyno results if you're interested. The guys at Vengeance do incredible work. Can't say enough good things about them!


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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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You can't go wrong with Kooks or America Racing Headers. No fitment issues (no experience with others) and yes tune required.
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 02:31 PM
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I went with ARH long-tubes/catted X-pipe, 160 thermostat, Soler ported throttle body, and Vararam cold air. Dyno tuned at Henderson in New Braunfels, TX. I absolutely love the sound of the car now. The hp gains are a bonus.
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cstapp99
I went with ARH long-tubes/catted X-pipe, 160 thermostat, Soler ported throttle body, and Vararam cold air. Dyno tuned at Henderson in New Braunfels, TX. I absolutely love the sound of the car now. The hp gains are a bonus.
What are your numbers from the tune?
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For those that have done headers, what are your thoughts on cats?
I would like cats to reduce the sound a little and the smell, but at what whp will they not hold up?

Any recommendations on heat shields for things like oil lines, oil filter, spark plug wires, starter, ect.?

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Originally Posted by Bob U
For those that have done headers, what are your thoughts on cats?
I would like cats to reduce the sound a little and the smell, but at what whp will they not hold up?

Any recommendations on heat shields for things like oil lines, oil filter, spark plug wires, starter, ect.?

Thanks,
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I went with the high-flow catted x-pipe with my headers and I am very glad I did. It still sounds absolutely incredible, but doesn't have the drone at high speeds. There are four cats on the stock Vette and the Headers remove two of them already, so the x-pipe maintaining the high-flow cats still gives it the sound I want while also making me pass emissions. I also heard a catless C7 at the same shop where I had mine done and, side-by-side, there was very little difference. They sounded almost identical with the exception that I smelt the raw gas smell more on the completely catless vehicle. Stick with the cats on the x-pipe. Trust me!
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Originally Posted by 17C7Z51
What are your numbers from the tune?
419hp, 433tq at the wheels - about 96 degrees outside that day.
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Originally Posted by DailyDrivenCorvettes
I went with the high-flow catted x-pipe with my headers and I am very glad I did. It still sounds absolutely incredible, but doesn't have the drone at high speeds. There are four cats on the stock Vette and the Headers remove two of them already, so the x-pipe maintaining the high-flow cats still gives it the sound I want while also making me pass emissions. I also heard a catless C7 at the same shop where I had mine done and, side-by-side, there was very little difference. They sounded almost identical with the exception that I smelt the raw gas smell more on the completely catless vehicle. Stick with the cats on the x-pipe. Trust me!
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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I second the opinion on going with high flow cats. I had catless headers and x-pipe on my last car and went with cats on my c7 z06. Very happy with how quiet it is cruising on the highway and how it sounds when in the throttle.
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Thanks for the advice about keeping the cats as I really want too, but at what WHP will they not hold up?
Thanks, Bob
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob U
Thanks for the advice about keeping the cats as I really want too, but at what WHP will they not hold up?
Thanks, Bob
I think they are good to upwards of 750 rwhp if I am not mistaken.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by eprest1983
I think they are good to upwards of 750 rwhp if I am not mistaken.
That’s what I’m here too. With a pulley, headers and a tune, I should be around 750 to 770whp. If I add e85 it should be 800 to 830whp.
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