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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Hey guys, I need a little help. If you put a catless x pipe on stock headers and keep your stock tips, do you have to have a tune?
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Nope , a catless X pipe adds ZERO HP ....but sure sounds great when u Add a mild to wild switch and a range device to keep it out of 4 cylinder mode

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not from what i have been reading.

it should add a few hp and tq and take some weight away. the best feature is adding some noise to exhaust.

im currently thinking about getting one soon.
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not from what i have been reading.

it should add a few hp and tq and take some weight away. the best feature is adding some noise to exhaust.

im currently thinking about getting one soon.
don't belive what u read, no hp gain and actually a little loss in TQ with an X pipe . Tune maybe 15 hp

If you want noise, that's great but that's all ...

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Hey guys, I need a little help. If you put a catless x pipe on stock headers and keep your stock tips, do you have to have a tune?
No it is not worth the cost over what you will be gaining in RWHP. Robert
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No it is not worth the cost over what you will be gaining in RWHP. Robert
Exactly, but if you have an automatic, a tune on the transmission can make it a different car.
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Exactly, but if you have an automatic, a tune on the transmission can make it a different car.
What exactly do they tune in a trans? Is it a usual thing or do you need to do it seperate? I'm taking mine in next week and I dont
know what to expect. I've had this done on several cars but never the trans. I'm having UMS in Phoenix doing it.
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Nope. I added the Borla Atak Exhaust with the X Pipe. No Codes, No tune. Just great sound.
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In brief, there are 16 tuning adjustments to the GM A6 that can be made to make it shift faster, stronger, and allow the engine to be in more responsive RPM ranges, etc. The A8 should be similar.

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I am presently communicating with The Tuning School in Florida about the GM A6/A8 tuning guide they show on their website. Just got a response that says that that guide is not out yet? More when I get more info.
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I am presently communicating with The Tuning School in Florida about the GM A6/A8 tuning guide they show on their website. Just got a response that says that that guide is not out yet? More when I get more info.
I have a MY16 A8 Z06 and had the transmission tuned at the same time I had the ECU tuned. I don't know much about what was specifically changed but wow, it should have been done this way from the beginning. Very nice now, the shifts remind me of my DCT in my previous F10 M5. I believe HP Tuners asks for 4 credits for MY17+ A8 transmissions.

https://www.hptuners.com/product/tcm-unlock-service/

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Makes sense that they would be tuning that transmission before their manual was out.
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Let me know when you get the info.

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I am presently communicating with The Tuning School in Florida about the GM A6/A8 tuning guide they show on their website. Just got a response that says that that guide is not out yet? More when I get more info.
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It appears the Tuning School is teaching the tuning of the A8 in their classes but do not have a manual out yet. Since the A8 is included with the A6 in the probable upcoming manual, the tuning techniques are probably similar. Apparently, BigVette427 above knows a tuner who knows the answer and can actually do it.
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Originally Posted by jim2092
It appears the Tuning School is teaching the tuning of the A8 in their classes but do not have a manual out yet. Since the A8 is included with the A6 in the probable upcoming manual, the tuning techniques are probably similar. Apparently, BigVette427 above knows a tuner who knows the answer and can actually do it.
Patrick Guerra is one of the very best tuners out there and has been doing it since the beginning. He just posted a MY18 Z06 where he unlocked the transmission and tuned it, as well.

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Originally Posted by BigVette427
Patrick Guerra is one of the very best tuners out there and has been doing it since the beginning. He just posted a MY18 Z06 where he unlocked the transmission and tuned it, as well.

https://www.facebook.com/patgtuning/...14447025615246
Were is his shop? Texas?
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All results from the same 1/4 mile dragstrip.

* 3" Corsa X-pipe = I liked the sound but it slowed the car down the most; approx. .15 so it had to go. I sold it.

* Then I tried a factory X-pipe with cleaned out catalytic converters = Slowed the car down approx. 4 hundreds of a second (.04) in the 1/4 mile over a untouched OEM X-pipe.

* Stock = If your looking for performance stick with the stock X-pipe. From my understanding the X-pipe 'internal metal' catalytic converters are 'high flow' converters.

Note: never tried the Borla X-pipe.

Corsa X-pipe: painted with some heat wrapping to protect the A8 trans.

OEM: gutted out converters.


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