Soler TB with tune testing coming!
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8th Gear
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Soler TB with tune testing coming!
Hey everyone, currently have a 15 A8 with intake, Soler TC and off road X-pipe. Currently tuned, and car runs great, but being a nut, I did a bunch of logging and while spark is higher, and almost zero knock, it also runs pretty rich right now! Sooooo, a "normal person" would have the tuner pull some fuel, I decided to add more AIR instead! 
If this works like I am hoping, the TB should REALLY help in a couple ways? I am not doing core exchange in case the car doesn't like the new TB.
Quick question, what is the WOT spark you tuned guys are running on your N/A cars?
If this works like I am hoping, the TB should REALLY help in a couple ways? I am not doing core exchange in case the car doesn't like the new TB.
Quick question, what is the WOT spark you tuned guys are running on your N/A cars?
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A NA Motor is only going to pull in the amount of air it can use ... bigger throttle body will not increase the amount of air , it will just slow down the velocity.... dont expect much gain as u will be disappointed .... good luck
Dave
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100 % I am right lol unless you are making mods that nessates the need for more air , like headers , cam, ported heads , the stock throttle body is not a restriction , just put a tune in it, lean it down and enjoy your 20 hp gain as that's all it's going to be . Not much was left on the table by GM
You want a decent gain . Along with the tune put a set of headers on it , 40 to 50 HP gain across most the RPM range is power gain you will feel in the seat of your paints dyno lol
Dave
You want a decent gain . Along with the tune put a set of headers on it , 40 to 50 HP gain across most the RPM range is power gain you will feel in the seat of your paints dyno lol
Dave
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100 % I am right lol unless you are making mods that nessates the need for more air , like headers , cam, ported heads , the stock throttle body is not a restriction , just put a tune in it, lean it down and enjoy your 20 hp gain as that's all it's going to be . Not much was left on the table by GM
You want a decent gain . Along with the tune put a set of headers on it , 40 to 50 HP gain across most the RPM range is power gain you will feel in the seat of your paints dyno lol
Dave
You want a decent gain . Along with the tune put a set of headers on it , 40 to 50 HP gain across most the RPM range is power gain you will feel in the seat of your paints dyno lol
Dave
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He wasn't doing anything but being sarcastic, and I didn't ask for help. It is fine, I see what I have at this site. You didn't read the post either.
Also, all he did is call hundreds of other people who have had good experiences with Soler liars and stupid in a round about way as well. Although I am sure he has tried it himself, to be able to say what he did?
Also, all he did is call hundreds of other people who have had good experiences with Soler liars and stupid in a round about way as well. Although I am sure he has tried it himself, to be able to say what he did?
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8th Gear
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Never said you are wrong. I actually said you may be right. But I have been around the block enough to see canned answers, ending with "good luck" are sarcasm.
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He wasn't doing anything but being sarcastic, and I didn't ask for help. It is fine, I see what I have at this site. You didn't read the post either.
Also, all he did is call hundreds of other people who have had good experiences with Soler liars and stupid in a round about way as well. Although I am sure he has tried it himself, to be able to say what he did?
Also, all he did is call hundreds of other people who have had good experiences with Soler liars and stupid in a round about way as well. Although I am sure he has tried it himself, to be able to say what he did?
Dave
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Well. I'm with Dave on this one here. The Throttle Body doesn't add anything UNLESS the engine is asking for more. More air box, more throttle body, more intake manifold doesn't add anything unless you're motor is asking for more. With the correct sized headers & remaining exhaust system & a nice tune.....all the stuff on the intake side don't make a whole hill of beans. A nicelly ported TB (Soler) will get you some better throttle responce from a dead stop, but don't expect it to add anything at WOT.
It's a system.......& you have to affect the entire system (front to back) to realize what each of the components do for end results!
It's a system.......& you have to affect the entire system (front to back) to realize what each of the components do for end results!
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Guys we need to make the distinction between displacement (flow volume) and mass airflow (the weight of the flow) this is the one that counts.
The displacement is constant and this is what is referred to as the "engine asking", the mass is variable and depends on density which in turn depends on temperature and pressure. So you can fill what the engine is asking with thinner air (less power) or thicker air (more power), still the same "asking". Also, it takes some effort for the engine to "suck" that air, the freer the intake the more power goes to the wheels instead of using it to suck air in, still the same "asking".
I know one should not expect much from any single mod, but as you add on like the OP is doing they do help each other. Like somebody said earlier, GM didn't leave much on the table, this is a small % here-and-there game.
The displacement is constant and this is what is referred to as the "engine asking", the mass is variable and depends on density which in turn depends on temperature and pressure. So you can fill what the engine is asking with thinner air (less power) or thicker air (more power), still the same "asking". Also, it takes some effort for the engine to "suck" that air, the freer the intake the more power goes to the wheels instead of using it to suck air in, still the same "asking".
I know one should not expect much from any single mod, but as you add on like the OP is doing they do help each other. Like somebody said earlier, GM didn't leave much on the table, this is a small % here-and-there game.
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Thanks to Dave and Mike for chiming in. A Soler TB is a great addition on it's own. I have both the TB and TC on my Z06. No additional HP, but the throttle reponse is totally different and much improved.
Hope the OP reads what these guys have to offer. Lots of good advice.
I'm only trying to help. Not knocking you. We're all here to learn. This forum is the best out there.
Hope the OP reads what these guys have to offer. Lots of good advice.
I'm only trying to help. Not knocking you. We're all here to learn. This forum is the best out there.
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If you want the NA LT1 to shine with simple mods, you should do the following mods or none at all IMO.
Step 1: Intake or drop in filter, ported TB, ported intake manifold and a Tune. Any of these mods done by themselves will be disappointing, but combined they make a solid noticeable gain. You can skip the tune but you will be leaving some power on the table.
Step 2: Long Tube Headers and recalibrated tune.
Step 3: Flex Fuel
P.S. Listen to Dcasole, he's been around the block a few times.
Step 1: Intake or drop in filter, ported TB, ported intake manifold and a Tune. Any of these mods done by themselves will be disappointing, but combined they make a solid noticeable gain. You can skip the tune but you will be leaving some power on the table.
Step 2: Long Tube Headers and recalibrated tune.
Step 3: Flex Fuel
P.S. Listen to Dcasole, he's been around the block a few times.