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Old May 16, 2022 | 10:46 PM
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I am new to the C7 family and am looking to do a little upgrading on my Stingray. I am looking in to either getting a tune on my car, or upgrading my TB with a TC to go with it. I don't know which is better or where I should start first, so any input at all would be greatly appreciated.
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I would go with a drop in filter and a tune. But it is likely the more expensive option.
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Originally Posted by brennan193
I am new to the C7 family and am looking to do a little upgrading on my Stingray. I am looking in to either getting a tune on my car, or upgrading my TB with a TC to go with it. I don't know which is better or where I should start first, so any input at all would be greatly appreciated.
One of the tuners we offer like the i3 or T2 will let you add power and torque, adjust things like rev and speed limits, tire size, etc, and, give you a parameter called throttle boost where you can adjust the pedal sensitivity through the tune
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Originally Posted by brennan193
I am new to the C7 family and am looking to do a little upgrading on my Stingray. I am looking in to either getting a tune on my car, or upgrading my TB with a TC to go with it. I don't know which is better or where I should start first, so any input at all would be greatly appreciated.
Assuming TB is throttle body and TC is torque converter, don't waste money on the TB, but a Yank 3200 or 3600 stall TC will make any other ~ $1k mod feel useless.
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If I can offer thoughts TB = Throttle Body, TC = Throttle Controller, I say DO IT TODAY. I installed a ported stock throttle body and Soler Throttle Controller (there are many brands) on my 2019 Grand Sport. I’m not a big HP speed demon or anything, but this car drives completely different now. Manual transmission responds almost as rapidly as my electric vehicle. I have not tuned yet due to being on factory warranty.
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I have ported intake, ported throttle body, soler TC and Corsa x pipe. The x pipe just made the car louder. The ported intake and throttle body were done at the same time and they made a noticeable difference in throttle response.

The Soler TC was a very noticeable improvement in throttle response.

My next steps are headers and a tune, then a supercharger a couple of years down the road.
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I have ported intake, ported throttle body, soler TC and Corsa x pipe. The x pipe just made the car louder. The ported intake and throttle body were done at the same time and they made a noticeable difference in throttle response.

The Soler TC was a very noticeable improvement in throttle response.

My next steps are headers and a tune, then a supercharger a couple of years down the road.
Very similar for me as well. Ported throttle body, Granatelli plug wires, SR-1 x-pipe, Vararam TCR CAI, custom exhaust dumps, Soler TC, untuned right now. Sounds and runs more stout. I’m doing ARH or Hooker mid-length headers (California CARB) and a tune next. At some point I’ll add a supercharger, but I’m not in a hurry. This car is plenty fast for how I use it. Good luck with your build.

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Originally Posted by 2014BlkVette
Very similar for me as well. Ported throttle body, Granatelli plug wires, SR-1 x-pipe, Vararam TCR CAI, custom exhaust dumps, Soler TC, untuned right now. Sounds and runs more stout. I’m doing ARH or Hooker mid-length headers (California CARB) and a tune next. At some point I’ll add a supercharger, but I’m not in a hurry. This car is plenty fast for how I use it. Good luck with your build.
Good luck. I don't have a cai as I am not convinced they help on a mostly stock LT1 and I did not want to risk throwing a cel when I am not ready to tune
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Good luck. I don't have a cai as I am not convinced they help on a mostly stock LT1 and I did not want to risk throwing a cel when I am not ready to tune
I have a way I think could change your perspective. Pick up a used Vararam TCR-7. I was not convinced regarding CAI’s either. I’d had one on a previous car. I picked up a used Vararam. Trust me big difference over stock box with aftermarket filter, even on factory tune. I’ve not tuned yet either. No CEL but flows air 1000x better. Less than 30 minutes to install.



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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 06:29 PM
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May want to think twice before tuning in CA https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...th-2021-a.html

No one seems to have a definitive answer regarding what years are affected. My guess is later C6s and newer.
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 06:44 PM
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First, I'd ask what it is that you are wanting changed, exactly?
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 08:33 PM
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May want to think twice before tuning in CA https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...th-2021-a.html

No one seems to have a definitive answer regarding what years are affected. My guess is later C6s and newer.
Oh yes, I’ve heard about the new CA ECU tune check. Being that this a new law, the rules are not completely in place. My car’s a 2019 so I’m exempt from SMOG check until 2027 or something like that. Hopefully something will be figured out by then. The folks in the shoot for SMOG now are feeling some pain, I’m sure. If not, I’ve got a few options. I’m more worried about my losing my warranty than I am about SMOG check with tune.
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ported throttle-body can throw a CEL. While they don't really add any power (nor would a TC), they can improve drivability, especially on a manual car. If you are looking for power, you are going to have to tune the car. Any mods can give you warranty issues so be prepared to swap back to the stock TB if requested by the dealership.

Flexfuel sensor and a tune will by far be the best bang for the buck modification in terms of power gains on an LT1, might as well do the CAI while you are at it. If you have E85 available around you, that's the route I'd go if you are looking for 30-40 more rwhp for under $2k.
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Soler TB & Controller, Diablo Lew i3 custom tune, AFE CAI, AWE x-pipe. Car is fun to drive. Add a DSC and it handles even better.
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Originally Posted by 2ZORNOT2Z
ported throttle-body can throw a CEL. While they don't really add any power (nor would a TC), they can improve drivability, especially on a manual car. If you are looking for power, you are going to have to tune the car. Any mods can give you warranty issues so be prepared to swap back to the stock TB if requested by the dealership.

Flexfuel sensor and a tune will by far be the best bang for the buck modification in terms of power gains on an LT1, might as well do the CAI while you are at it. If you have E85 available around you, that's the route I'd go if you are looking for 30-40 more rwhp for under $2k.
I am so close to doing that very thing. With my ported intake, TB and TC, I would do a CAI, flex fuel sensor and tune, and a before/after dyno run. My only hesitation is I know I want a blower a year or two down the road and then the E85 add would be useless without doing expensive fueling mods and likely a cam swap. Then it get's real expensive.
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Originally Posted by Blackwater0323
Soler TB & Controller, Diablo Lew i3 custom tune, AFE CAI, AWE x-pipe. Car is fun to drive. Add a DSC and it handles even better.
I have the same setup and love it. Car runs great and pulls hard. Next a ported intake manifold and have Lew do a new tune.
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I have the same setup and love it. Car runs great and pulls hard. Next a ported intake manifold and have Lew do a new tune.
Any documented performance gains you can share? Dyno or ET's and trap speed to confirm the improvement? I don't doubt there are, I just like numbers and am seriously considering this since I have some mods that would benefit from a tune.
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A tune will void any warranty you have. They will know! I’m gettin a Soler TB and have a Soler TC. I think it’s the way to go, especially as a first step. Then drive the car for a while and enjoy.
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A tune will void any warranty you have. They will know! I’m gettin a Soler TB and have a Soler TC. I think it’s the way to go, especially as a first step. Then drive the car for a while and enjoy.
Everybody already knows that. Ported TB amd intake made a noticeable improvement in response and may have added a little power. Then I added a Soler TC and that really woke up the throttle response. Now I am ready for more. My aftermarket ext warranty may get cancelled of I do. My car is too old to have a factory warranty.
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