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Old Nov 7, 2022 | 04:57 PM
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2017 Stingray jerks or hiccups service tech says a fuel injector maybe bad. This only started after I filled up for a road trip and actual started the jerking or hiccups on the road trip. Used on Shell 93 octane. Service put in fuel injector cleaner. Now driving to run this tank of gas out. Could this only be bad gas? It runs fine no check engine lights. HELP

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Do you have access to a scanner? Fuel trim info and a power balance test would help to narrow it down.
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I just have a code reader. I will run out this tank of gas and see what happens with the next tank. Thank for the reply
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It could be water in the tank - it does happen. Short of draining the tank, you may have to run the gas out and then fill up again. Hopefully it was just a one time happening and not a bad injector.
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It could be water in the tank - it does happen. Short of draining the tank, you may have to run the gas out and then fill up again. Hopefully it was just a one time happening and not a bad injector.
IF it is water in the tank, perhaps some gas dry might help?
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Old Nov 8, 2022 | 12:03 PM
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You make a really good point. Years ago we got water in our gas tank when on a trip. It finally all cleared up and was fine.
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IF it is water in the tank, perhaps some gas dry might help?
Yeah that should help
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Could be some water in your fuel…recommend this stuff…will detect water in fuel quickly…you can get it on Amazon…if next fill up doesn’t resolve your issue I strongly suggest you DON’T take the car to a dealership for a diagnosis.
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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
Could be some water in your fuel…recommend this stuff…will detect water in fuel quickly…you can get it on Amazon…

if next fill up doesn’t resolve your issue I strongly suggest you DON’T take the car to a dealership for a diagnosis.
How do you sample the bottom of the tank?

I've been to both. Dealers do not have the market on mistakes. I've been screwed by independent mechanics as well. You have to find the right tech and follow him.
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How do you sample the bottom of the tank?

I've been to both. Dealers do not have the market on mistakes. I've been screwed by independent mechanics as well. You have to find the right tech and follow him.
I run some fuel out of the fuel rail by energizing the fuel pump into a container and take a sample or if you don’t have this product just put the fuel into a glass beaker and let the water settle to the bottom…always best to run non ethanol fuel if it’s available in your area…finding a knowledgeable diagnostic Tech is the hard part…”wrench turning” Techs are easier to find !!…if the OP explained to me that the car was running poorly after fill up taking a fuel sample would have been the first thing I’d do…not say a “could be a bad injector”…not a good idea to diagnose based on symptoms..I need evidence!!

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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
I run some fuel out of the fuel rail by energizing the fuel pump into a container and take a sample or if you don’t have this product just put the fuel into a glass beaker and let the water settle to the bottom…

always best to run non ethanol fuel if it’s available in your area…

finding a knowledgeable diagnostic Tech is the hard part…”wrench turning” Techs are easier to find !!…if the OP explained to me that the car was running poorly after fill up taking a fuel sample would have been the first thing I’d do…not say a “could be a bad injector”…not a good idea to diagnose based on symptoms..I need evidence!!
I don't know how deep that pickup is but it might not pick up on water if it isn't high enough or outside the dump if it has one but that seems to be the only way to do that.

It is but the gas station isn't as busy as I'd like and it is more expensive not to mention that is have to be tied to a few places that sell it. I have not see any mileage difference nor have my injectors had less build up. So ROI is not there that I can see.

I think diagnostics is probably a thing if the past like the TV repair guy. Modern systems are more complex than the past systems and it is probably more profitable to take an educated guess on the whole than to throughly test which is why it is what it is. My thoughts are that if they are going to charge actual diagnostic time, people will balk. Currently at an hour and people are wishing it were free.
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[QUOTE=aklim;1605897146]I don't know how deep that pickup is but it might not pick up on water if it isn't high enough or outside the dump if it has one but that seems to be the only way to do that.

It is but the gas station isn't as busy as I'd like and it is more expensive not to mention that is have to be tied to a few places that sell it. I have not see any mileage difference nor have my injectors had less build up. So ROI is not there that I can see.

I think diagnostics is probably a thing if the past like the TV repair guy. Modern systems are more complex than the past systems and it is probably more profitable to take an educated guess on the whole than to throughly test which is why it is what it is. My thoughts are that if they are going to charge actual diagnostic time, people will balk. Currently at an hour and people are wishing it were free.[/QUOTE

Diagnostics is a “thing of the past” ??…I’d rather pay for an hour or two of diagnostic time and have a 100% fix with one part than have 5 “educated guesses” on my car that doesn’t fix it and be stuck with a $1,000 bill and it’s still not fixed correctly…yes, guessing is more profitable for the shop because that’s more unneeded parts they will be charging you for !!…watch this video that Bernie Thompson just dropped an hour ago…dealer shop is telling the owner he needs a new engine…LOL !!

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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
Diagnostics is a “thing of the past” ??…

I’d rather pay for an hour or two of diagnostic time and have a 100% fix with one part than have 5 “educated guesses” on my car that doesn’t fix it and be stuck with a $1,000 bill and it’s still not fixed correctly…yes, guessing is more profitable for the shop because that’s more unneeded parts they will be charging you for !!…watch this video that Bernie Thompson just dropped an hour ago…dealer shop is telling the owner he needs a new engine…LOL !!

https://youtu.be/RFM5mZ1tKoE
If it wasn't, you have a lot of explaining to do. You did say
finding a knowledgeable diagnostic Tech is the hard part…”wrench turning” Techs are easier to find !!
. I concur with your statement though. I know of a few techs that really will do the diagnostic work when it comes down to it and most that will scan a code and come up with an educated guess and more often than not, the educated guess is right but sometimes, they have to do a "comeback" and redo the job.

Well, if those are my choices, I agree with you. Question is whether those are the only choices available. Tech sees more than your car. Not every one of the diagnosis, on average is a horror story. You can't say "When it happens to me, it is intolerable. When I benefit from the price difference of the educated guess vs a total test, it is OK.". Look at it this way. I go to a parts house and they tell me that based on my code set, the purge valve is a LIKELY problem. You change it and it fixes the problem. Good for you. Saved a bunch of money getting a qualified tech to make a through diagnosis. You are taking the chance and sometimes you win. Sometimes, that isn't the solution but if you save more often than not, I guess it could be a win IN THE LONG RUN. YMMV
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