DOD delete and emissions
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Joined: Jul 2020
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From: Valencia, CA.
I'm not sure how else to convince you that more fuel burned equates to more emissions output without treating you like a conspiracy theorist, so bear with me here while I try.
It's a matter of scale. The tiny little things that don't seem to be useful to you as an individual make massive changes across a fleet. For that reason, you are not treated as an individual, you are not special, and you are not allowed an exemption to the rule. If you were, then someone dumber than you who thinks they're smarter than you would feel entitled to an exception. Fast-forward a decade and you've got smog alerts again (and probably more crime and poverty).
AFM is an emissions control strategy. This is not up for debate. By not having it, you produce more emissions than if you had it, and that is justification enough to keep it around. Sure, you can bypass it by switching to manual mode in an automatic, or staying out of eco mode on a manual, but that doesn't matter. The system is there and it is automatically used when it can be.
Removing AFM under the justification that "it doesn't do much" or "I stay out of v4 mode anyways" is an extremely dangerous one. To go back to a catalytic converter as an example, the same line of thinking would be that I should be allowed to delete the catalytic converter because I'm banging it off the rev limiter and doing smokey burnouts all the time so it doesn't really do much for me anyways. But that's insane, and you've reacted to the comparison as such a number of posts up. This is how I'm viewing your idea of removing AFM being totally fine. Again though, the comparison here ends at the thought process leading to the justification, you can replace "catalytic converter" with any other piece of emissions equipment, like your charcoal canister, and replace "I do burnouts constantly" with some other habit that increases emissions in spite of the existence of that particular piece of emissions control equipment.
I still can't shake the feeling that you're fishing for information to use as an argument against your emissions testing tech to somehow gain an exception to the test. If that's what you're after, just go to a tech that'll take $100 to rubber stamp your car and stop the charade.
If there's something specific that I'm not explaining well enough, please direct me, otherwise I don't think I have anything more to say in this thread.
It's a matter of scale. The tiny little things that don't seem to be useful to you as an individual make massive changes across a fleet. For that reason, you are not treated as an individual, you are not special, and you are not allowed an exemption to the rule. If you were, then someone dumber than you who thinks they're smarter than you would feel entitled to an exception. Fast-forward a decade and you've got smog alerts again (and probably more crime and poverty).
AFM is an emissions control strategy. This is not up for debate. By not having it, you produce more emissions than if you had it, and that is justification enough to keep it around. Sure, you can bypass it by switching to manual mode in an automatic, or staying out of eco mode on a manual, but that doesn't matter. The system is there and it is automatically used when it can be.
Removing AFM under the justification that "it doesn't do much" or "I stay out of v4 mode anyways" is an extremely dangerous one. To go back to a catalytic converter as an example, the same line of thinking would be that I should be allowed to delete the catalytic converter because I'm banging it off the rev limiter and doing smokey burnouts all the time so it doesn't really do much for me anyways. But that's insane, and you've reacted to the comparison as such a number of posts up. This is how I'm viewing your idea of removing AFM being totally fine. Again though, the comparison here ends at the thought process leading to the justification, you can replace "catalytic converter" with any other piece of emissions equipment, like your charcoal canister, and replace "I do burnouts constantly" with some other habit that increases emissions in spite of the existence of that particular piece of emissions control equipment.
I still can't shake the feeling that you're fishing for information to use as an argument against your emissions testing tech to somehow gain an exception to the test. If that's what you're after, just go to a tech that'll take $100 to rubber stamp your car and stop the charade.
If there's something specific that I'm not explaining well enough, please direct me, otherwise I don't think I have anything more to say in this thread.
I am not here to be right or to make you wrong, I just have questions, lingering questions if that's OK with you? As hard as you might try to convince me, for which I respect because I can't refute the information, I'm learning a lot and it's appreciated, I still have questions that you nor anyone else HAS TO answer, some questions are rhetorical, some are just plain cynical.
For example ... someone can legally buy a gas guzzler that gets 12 miles per gallon or less, they'll pay for the privilege in the form of a gas guzzler tax, but it's legal, in most cases the same cars would very likely also be SMOG legal, a "tuned " car with better mileage is illegal. Not all 8 & 10 cylinder vehicles come with AFM/DOD, they're also legal.
I got pulled over on the 5 freeway years ago, the CHP officer said that I was exceeding the speed limit, in fact I was in-flow with the speed of traffic, right before the officer pulled my car over, a little silver Honda ZIPPED past my car, I was sure that the driver of silver Honda was gonna get the ticket, when I mentioned that to the officer he said, " everybody's speeding, I just got to your car first", then he said the strangest thing of all ... "you have the predominant vehicle" he said, "predominant in what way" I asked, he said ... " I don't have to explain my meaning to you." This whole subject seems a lot like selective enforcement to me.
Take care & thanks !
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