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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 08:44 AM
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I have a new to me 2016 and the cruise control “wanders” it will hold speed, but the RPMs don’t stay constant, even on level ground. They will vary 100-200 RPMs, fairly constantly. Is this common, or do I have a problem? My precious C5 and C6 did not do this, but they were both manuals, and this car is automatic.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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My 2018 GS does the same, but as I use the hockey almost useless stick tach I don't see the RPM wandering. The speedometer definitely shows it though. Girlfriend absolutely hates following me because the car doesn't keep a consistent speed.

Oddly, following/being followed by my buddy with a Z06, we match speed perfectly. So, at least the wandering is consistent?
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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IS there any sense of skaking or shudder when the RPMs are varying?

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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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I don't think I notice mine really wander unless it's going up or downhill. Usually stays within 1 mile of the speed I set. Maybe the converter is allowing a little slip in between the car giving throttle.
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Yes, I can feel the change in RPMs as a shudder.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hjudge49
Yes, I can feel the change in RPMs as a shudder.
You have the car in manual mode if 8AT, and out of eco mode if 7MT, right? the v4/v8 transition is a pretty noticeable shudder.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 12:12 PM
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Will it show as a change of RPM?
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it might on an 8AT. shouldn't on a 7MT.

I'll ask again though, do you have the car in manual mode if 8AT, or out of Eco mode in 7MT?
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k, reread your original post and your concern isn't speed, it's RPM.

the 8AT is a slushbox, and as such there will be slop in the torque converter. 100rpm isn't terribly concerning at low RPMs, my buddy's Z06 has some amount of slop like this.

the shudder is more than likely the v4/v8 mode switching. go into manual mode if you aren't already and see if it still happens.
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It could be the A8 shudder issue.
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Read this: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...sb-18na355.pdf


Sounds like you need the triple flush on the A8.

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the rpm fluctuation is the afm going in and out from 8 to 4 cylinders. drop down into manual and the rpm will stabilize. I purchased the range device 3 yrs ago that keeps it in 8cyl, best money I ever spent.
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the rpm fluctuation is the afm going in and out from 8 to 4 cylinders. drop down into manual and the rpm will stabilize. I purchased the range device 3 yrs ago that keeps it in 8cyl, best money I ever spent.
WHile true, youcovered the problem but didn't correct the problem. THe triple flush will fix the issue before it wipes out the torque convertor.

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Eboggs, do you know of a corvette certified tech in Jax or St. Augustine?
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eboggs I forgot to mention I did get the triple flush done under warranty.
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Originally Posted by etaylor14
eboggs I forgot to mention I did get the triple flush done under warranty.

When was it done? THe correct fluid came out in 2019(???) or late 2018. THey had the triple flush but were using bad juice.

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Eboggs, do you know of a corvette certified tech in Jax or St. Augustine?

Garber in Green Cove Springs (Jacksonville Corvette Club sponsor) or Coggin at the Avenues.

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eboggs Thanks for your concern. Just looked at the invoice September of 2019.
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eboggs Thanks for your concern. Just looked at the invoice September of 2019.
Then you should have the good stuff.

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Based on the OPs description I don't see anything wrong with his transmission. He is noticing the engine rpm varying as he drives with the cruise control set, he hasn't mentioned anything about shuddering.

The A8 transmission (actually any slushomatic) will declutch the Torque Converter Clutch when more resistance (such as when going from level ground to an uphill stretch) is encountered or when the engine switches from 8 to 4 cylinder operation or from 4 to 8 operation. When the TCC declutches due to increased load you will see engine rpm vary and if the load is high enough the transmission may downshift. One other thing about the A8 is the TCC doesn't always lock up completely. It is permitted to slip slightly. (See description below)



If you have a manual transmission the rpm won't change the same way since the clutch stays engaged. An increased load will slow the engine until the cruise control can react. If you have a cruise set while driving in 7th gear you will see more of a drop and a longer time to recover, but if you have the transmission in 4th gear there will be a slight drop followed almost instantaneously by a surge to recover lost speed.

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