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Let me be the first to admit I was wrong. I've posted here I thought the product to be just this side of snake oil - just push the throttle down further guy.
What grabbed my attention was the ability to disable the throttle. Reading threads here about how thieves have figured out how to steal the C7 without much effort, this concerned me. Then there is the mode for M7 cars and the perks thrown in for us 3 pedal guys (fighting over revving if you miss a shift). Then, Valet Mode. I recently finished up my A&A install and the tires spin unintentionally frequently. You just can't drive it like it isn't boosted. 500 ft lbs of torque at 3500 rpm.
This morning, I took my car in for the mag ride software update, set it into valet mode in case the service tech tried to take a quick joy ride (I'd snapped a shot of the odometer regardless). Punched it on my way towards the lot and it was very sluggish, doing exactly what you'd want it to. Valet 9 was not going to allow for any foolishness. Pulling out onto the public street (the roads were wet and it was drizzling out), I adjusted from Valet 9 to Sport 5. The immediate electronic adjustment in throttle caused the rear to kick out. So yeah, adjustments are certainly immediate!
I have a horrible OCD habit of not giving the car enough gas pulling away from time to time. I did the same thing as a kid on my dirt bike way back when. I know I'm doing it, but have to make a conscience effort not to do it. Sport 4/5 gives a bit more throttle tip in and makes up for my shortcomings. Very happy with how this responds and compensates for me. The flip side is more aggressive throttle on the way up. That's much easier for me to work around.
On my supercharged M7, I would not hesitate to do this again. It makes the car easier, more fun, and more rewarding to drive. I'm sure I'll hit ludicrous mode at some point just to say I did, but tire spin is already 'ludicrous'. This product will also help manage wheel spin as I play with it and become more familiar. All this almost makes me forgot why I bought it in the first place - disabling the throttle.
I'll add that my only nit to pick is where to mount the small control module. Some guys put it on the dash (muting any antitheft aspects). Some in the console (not much better), some in the glove box. Having the app to control settings I am going to get creative in where I put this. I believe they give you a 6' lead to paly with. My plan it to mount it semi permanently hidden and use my phone only to operate the system. I have a few ideas, but it's going to be tucked away.
Install was super easy if you can kneel under your dash. Hid the main module behind the carpet and tucked away.
So, in my application, I love this thing. Really has made a difference in my enjoyment of the car. If you have a blown M7 car, buy one. Ought to be included with buying a blower.
Well, I don't have a blown M7, but others with stock equipment really like the Soler Throttle setup. I don't recall ever hearing anything bad of the system; so a Soler setup is at the top of my 'To Do' list.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Welcome to the Soler club - glad you're happy with it. In my experience, Sport 5 is about as close to linear throttle control as you can get, which is what many want. YMMV, but I found Ludicrous mode more of a conversational thing, than a useful one, as it turns the throttle into little more than an on/off switch.
If you've got one of the newer Bluetooth-capable controllers, you do not need the control module, once it's paired with your phone. You can safely disconnect it and leave it at home. From a theft prevention perspective, you're probably better off doing this.
If you really want the control module to remain connected, the cord is (barely) long enough to reach into the center console, which is where I kept the one from my previous (non-Bluetooth) version.
Welcome to the Soler club - glad you're happy with it. In my experience, Sport 5 is about as close to linear throttle control as you can get, which is what many want. YMMV, but I found Ludicrous mode more of a conversational thing, than a useful one, as it turns the throttle into little more than an on/off switch.
If you've got one of the newer Bluetooth-capable controllers, you do not need the control module, once it's paired with your phone. You can safely disconnect it and leave it at home. From a theft prevention perspective, you're probably better off doing this.
If you really want the control module to remain connected, the cord is (barely) long enough to reach into the center console, which is where I kept the one from my previous (non-Bluetooth) version.
Glad you chimed in here. I've been in Sport 5 as well. Feels like a linear throttle response, if not a bit perky. But yeah, Sport 5 feels great. As for disconnecting the module from the lead, glad you let me know about this. Assumed it had to remain connected??! This is great news.
Can you tell me more about this? I'm very happy with my TC, just curious about the "miss shift" comment - thanks!
I had seen in one of the YT videos that choosing M7 in the settings would allow the module to prevent overrevving on a missed shift. The instructions don't say anything about this. Just passing along what I'd seen. I THINK it was a C&S video where I grabbed this info, but don't quote me. I have reached out to Soler to clarify this and a few other things inviting them to chime in here.
Glad you chimed in here. I've been in Sport 5 as well. Feels like a linear throttle response, if not a bit perky. But yeah, Sport 5 feels great. As for disconnecting the module from the lead, glad you let me know about this. Assumed it had to remain connected??! This is great news.
That was true of the previous generation (non-Bluetooth) version, but not the current (Bluetooth) one.
Originally Posted by ^&right
I had seen in one of the YT videos that choosing M7 in the settings would allow the module to prevent overrevving on a missed shift. The instructions don't say anything about this. Just passing along what I'd seen. I THINK it was a C&S video where I grabbed this info, but don't quote me. I have reached out to Soler to clarify this and a few other things inviting them to chime in here.
Regardless, I'll post my findings if they do not.
I was unaware of this, and would like to hear from @Mike@SolerEngr to confirm/deny the video's claim.
I recently finished up my A&A install and the tires spin unintentionally frequently. You just can't drive it like it isn't boosted.
Something is wrong with your tune or you don't know how to drive. My M7 made over 600whp with my A&A kit and on the stock tires. What headunit and size pullies are you running? The car drove like stock until you got on it. The car would only spin in 1 or 2nd if I dumped the clutch or just mashed the pedal to the floor. If you drove around normally you couldn't even tell a difference.
Who tuned your car? If they aren't experienced with Gen V tuning it's very easy to **** up the torque curves. Can you post your tune/log?
Reached out Soler by email, no response. Called them and got some answers. After talking to them I realized that what I think I heard regarding any prevention of over revving with a throttle controller makes no sense. It couldn't be tied into the ECM to manipulate this, so that is out. Don't recall where I got this, but in hindsight it makes no sense
The person I talked to clarified two things. First the M7 mode in settings really doesn't do much. All it does do is put a slight hesitation between shifts (I'm assuming wen you may lift to upshift?) and soften any sharpened throttle response in whatever aggressive mode you may be in. He added regardless of transmission or rather this was turned on or not, you really wouldn't notice a difference. Stopped just short of saying it really doesn't matter.
Second regarding the mode selector itself to be mounted where ever you like. Once programmed and the app is working on your phone, you do not need this feature. Once everything is set up, open your door for 12 minutes, remove the fob from proximity range (or disconnect the battery), and simply remove the small mode selector and the cord extension if you like. Bluetooth connectivity is made through the module mounted behind the gas pedal, not through the selector panel, rendering its presence as a theft deterrent mute as a thief who knows about these can find it and simply unlock the throttle. Removing it would require much further effort by a thief to get around this and know what to look for. But, again, removing this requires the car be in service mode or a disconnected battery to avoid codes, etc.
Something is wrong with your tune or you don't know how to drive. My M7 made over 600whp with my A&A kit and on the stock tires. What headunit and size pullies are you running? The car drove like stock until you got on it. The car would only spin in 1 or 2nd if I dumped the clutch or just mashed the pedal to the floor. If you drove around normally you couldn't even tell a difference.
Who tuned your car? If they aren't experienced with Gen V tuning it's very easy to **** up the torque curves. Can you post your tune/log?
I am running the standard head unit and pulleys from A&A as recommended for a stock engine. I don't recall what they were anymore and, insulting my driving ability, I'm not inclined to put the effort in to satisfy your curiosity. My car does drive like stock until you reach ~25/30% throttle, except for a recognizable difference even at tip in. If your car is only spinning in 1st or 2nd, dumping the clutch or pounding on your throttle, I believe it is your tuner who may be suspect? My car will spin the tires, - holding the rear end out - through 3rd to 75 mph (with no throttle controller added) with zero effort, no clutch slipping or dumping and not pinning the throttle like it's a rental. I am running 3 season Pilot sports. I am not power shifting to do this. I'll add I am good for 140 mph through 4th gear.
Here is my dyno sheet. My tuner keeps his dyno calibrated to return the most honest numbers he can, having done so only a few weeks prior to my tune. He tunes cars to run safe tunes. We were certainly on the same page with my expression of rather having 550 safe rwhp that will last years vs. 650 rwhp lasting a few months. He does not tune to the ragged edge. As for his tuning experience I trust him completely. This is my 3rd tune through him and could not be more pleased every time. He has several Gen 5 1k+ hp builds and tunes through his shop I've personally seen and you will will not hear a foul word of his ability in the local community. This has been his full time job for some years now, not a fly by night, take your money tuner.
As you can see I'm making 500 ft lbs of torque from 3500 rpm to red line, only dipping to 480 ft lbs at redline. That's not a curve, that's near a straight line in power building. As you can see on my dyno sheet his info is listed in the top left. Feel free to reach out to him, he may be able to improve your tune.
While Corvette theft might not be as prevalent as the KIA or Dodge theft issues, a throttle controller is a small price to pay to keep your Corvette where you parked it.
Plus, you get additional features like valet mode, so you know the service tech isn’t taking your car for a joy ride, and the ability to eliminate throttle lag.
Email returned yesterday as follows. Going to try AI mode and see how that affects things. Sounds promising
Manual Setting (M7): This feature is more beneficial for inexperienced manual drivers, as it helps prevent over-revving on a missed shift. While it might not make a noticeable difference for an experienced driver, it's definitely worth a try.
Bluetooth Connection: You never have to plug in the display once you've connected via Bluetooth. You can simply keep the display in the box for added security against theft.
AI Mode: This mode monitors your habits of pedal displacement and rate, building a time average of the desired response level. It's similar to how fuel trims work, with a short-term behavior setting a new baseline for long-term behavior. It starts in the middle of the range near SP5 (invisible to you) and adjusts up or down over time based on your driving style.
I've been considering this just for the security feature alone. Seems to be a worthy purchase.
I installed the throttle controller today and without exaggeration I was flabbergasted at the increase in response. Gives you the illusion of the car being tuned. Very satisfied with the product. Installation is relatively easy and pairing the unit to the phone was also flawless. You’ll definitely enjoy this mod.
I installed the throttle controller today and without exaggeration I was flabbergasted at the increase in response. Gives you the illusion of the car being tuned. Very satisfied with the product. Installation is relatively easy and pairing the unit to the phone was also flawless. You’ll definitely enjoy this mod.
This is the controller that fools the ECM into thinking it has more pedal depression than it does so it commands more actual throttle opening, right?
I installed the throttle controller today and without exaggeration I was flabbergasted at the increase in response. Gives you the illusion of the car being tuned. Very satisfied with the product. Installation is relatively easy and pairing the unit to the phone was also flawless. You’ll definitely enjoy this mod.
Are still running the OEM throttle body or have you up graded to a Soler throttle body?
Is that a restriction? I was told that if I added a supercharger or turbo, it might become a restriction if the intake is more free flowing. What I have not seen is whether a stock Stingray TB is or isn't going to hamper airflow. My tune is slightly modified from stock for better throttle response and a little more power. I don't know if a more free flowing TB will increase power since the intake is stock as is the entire exhaust track.
While Corvette theft might not be as prevalent as the KIA or Dodge theft issues, a throttle controller is a small price to pay to keep your Corvette where you parked it.
Plus, you get additional features like valet mode, so you know the service tech isn’t taking your car for a joy ride, and the ability to eliminate throttle lag.
My 2017 Z06 already comes from Chevy with a Valet Mode that can be enabled and locked with a four digit code through the Touch Screen functions.
Don't need to by a throttle controller for that.
I think Valet Mode is standard on all models of C7 Corvettes from the factory.
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