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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
That's what the mod does. It shut off oil pressure to the pins so they never push in and deactivate the valves. That's why you use the plug into the VLOM.
And rhe solenoids don't currently do that?
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That's the issue the solenoids fail.
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
That's the issue the solenoids fail.
So you are thinking the lifters are good but it's the solenoids?
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:35 AM
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No one knows for sure. People make their own conclusions and do what they feel protects the engine. In my opinion, complete DOD delete is the only way to ensure against AFM failure.
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by emfollin
No one knows for sure. People make their own conclusions and do what they feel protects the engine. In my opinion, complete DOD delete is the only way to ensure against AFM failure.
That seems to be the consensus of the speed shops I have talked to. The rest is a Hail Mary. I don't think I would keep the C7 long enough to justify a full cam swap so I probably will not do it. The AFM delete via the ECM will have to suffice. It also changes the tip in so oli don't need a throttle controller or throttle body. It also firms the shift so if it helps the AFM, so be it. If not, oh well.
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Old Jan 11, 2025 | 10:01 AM
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Bottom line, Corvettes with a M7 trans never go into V4 mode unless your in ECO.

The computer is programed to stay in V8 mode unless ECO is engaged.

Same thing Diablo I3 or other programers do.

GM does not start plugging oil holes on M7 Corvettes. Why should you?

In Europe all C7's were in V8 mode until you told it to go to V4 mode. Just the opposite of here. Government dictated.
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Bottom line, Corvettes with a M7 trans never go into V4 mode unless your in ECO.

The computer is programed to stay in V8 mode unless ECO is engaged.

Same thing Diablo I3 or other programers do.

GM does not start plugging oil holes on M7 Corvettes. Why should you?

In Europe all C7's were in V8 mode until you told it to go to V4 mode. Just the opposite of here. Government dictated.
IDK about Europe. How are their AFM lifters holding up? Assuming it is exactly the same engine? IF they are holding up better, maybe not going into V4 mode is worth something. Assuming they are a large enough sample size.
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From what I have read most failures occur when the AFM lifters engage or disengage their locking pins that engage the lifter or not.

One mis-timing of one or both pins will result in a lifter failure. Hence the idea it is better to keep the engine in V8 mode all the time . No switching back and forth, pins stay static, no missed engagements.

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Originally Posted by Tinkertech
From what I have read most failures occur when the AFM lifters engage or disengage their locking pis that engage the lifter or not.

One mis-timing of one or both pins will result in a lifter failure. Hence the idea it is better to keep the engine in V8 mode all the time . No switching back and forth, pins stay static, no missed engagements.
That would be true in the M7 unless he wants to go to ECO mode. Yet they also have failures. Maybe the lifter is just poorly designed and is going to fail regardless of what "Hail Mary" approach we take?
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True, the lifters are the weak point.

But why take additional chances?

I programed mine out with a Diablo I3 from the very first.
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Originally Posted by Tinkertech
True, the lifters are the weak point.

But why take additional chances?

I programed mine out with a Diablo I3 from the very first.
Fair point. If I wasn't planning for a replacement to a C9 already and planned to keep the car, that set of lifters and cam would be decorating my wall.
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Obtained a Range for my '14, worked well. Changed the Range over to my '16, did not operate as well. Sent it back to Range for one for the '16, worked fine. Range stated there was some software issues on the older model that didn't work on the newer. No cost to me for the change out.
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Originally Posted by ChiefBoats
Obtained a Range for my '14, worked well. Changed the Range over to my '16, did not operate as well. Sent it back to Range for one for the '16, worked fine. Range stated there was some software issues on the older model that didn't work on the newer. No cost to me for the change out.
They said there should be no difference other than the updated one has better battery management where it doesn't suck the life out of the battery slowly. What did you mean by "did not operate as well"?
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Originally Posted by aklim
They said there should be no difference other than the updated one has better battery management where it doesn't suck the life out of the battery slowly. What did you mean by "did not operate as well"?
Worked intermittently.

Yes, that was part of the issue. This was almost 10 years ago, I'm sure there have been more tech updates over time.
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