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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 03:37 PM
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So, the Hunt continues
Son recommended that I consider a Convertible
found one two owners, reasonable miles for each owner (50k) 2016 M7 1LT
out of town, so asked for photo of Brake Reservoir


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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 03:54 PM
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just needs to be changed out. will look like that a week after you bleed the old oil out
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 06:35 PM
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Yeah it's old, but I wouldn't base my purchase on the condition of the brake fluid.
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 12yrs LATE
So, the Hunt continues
Son recommended that I consider a Convertible
found one two owners, reasonable miles for each owner (50k) 2016 M7 1LT
out of town, so asked for photo of Brake Reservoir

Not a deal breaker. I would look for a 2LT though.
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 03:37 AM
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So, the Hunt continues
Son recommended that I consider a Convertible
found one two owners, reasonable miles for each owner (50k) 2016 M7 1LT
out of town, so asked for photo of Brake Reservoir

I see brake fluid as an indicator of preventative maintenance and care the car's received. I shudder to think of what's in the clutch reservoir.

Assuming you have other options, including patience, I'd look for another. If other options or patience are in short supply, I'd dig deep into the cars maintenance records and look closely at its mechanical and cosmetic conditions. Good luck!
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Personally, that would not bother me at all. The clutch fluid will likely look the same - it happens quickly especially when you drive them. Since we don't know a lot about the car (price, visual condition - under hood condition, cleanliness of door jambs, wheel wells, calipers, wheel drums - built up brake dust, seats/bolsters/console cover/HDMI screen, maintenance records, carfax, etc.). Do you have a link to the pics in the sale ad? Might give us a little more insight than one thing.
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 9sec
just needs to be changed out. will look like that a week after you bleed the old oil out
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it happens quickly especially when you drive them.
IDK about you two, assuming @Flattman is talking about the brake fluid, but I have NEVER had that happen to me. My cars all had fluid changed last year on the same day in spring and I have NEVER experienced that. While the fluids are darker than new and there is some additional water content (as verified by my tester) vs fresh from the bottle with the seal just cracked open, I have NEVER had it turn that dark after a week of driving in ANY car I have ever owned.

When I flush, I use a vacuum thing that they use to suck out old oil from an inboard boat motor to suck out all the old fluid, dump fresh in and suck it out again. After which, I flush. I use a quart to flush all 4 calipers on any car I own. I did this for all my MBs and the standard was 2 years so I did that for every vehicle I own including the motorcycles.

All said, this dark fluid is what I expect to see on used cars especially domestic ones since people don't seem to grasp the concept that the brake fluid gets old. I am always told "Well, that was how I have done it for 30 years. No problem." but the fluid tester seems to disagree that it is a good idea.
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 09:38 PM
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IDK about you two, assuming @Flattman is talking about the brake fluid, but I have NEVER had that happen to me.
You're correct, I was referring to the clutch fluid if they were to check that in addition to the brake fluid. The brake fluid does change shades at a much slower rate so in the OP's case, it's been awhile.
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You're correct, I was referring to the clutch fluid if they were to check that in addition to the brake fluid. The brake fluid does change shades at a much slower rate so in the OP's case, it's been awhile.
Fair enough. I only owned a manual for a few months so I can't be sure.
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Hey Folks:
appreciate the quick respones
verdict became a “NO GO” with visit to Dealer,
yep, two hour drive, arrived car is Dirty, as in had not been washed in awhile, oh well, time for test drive….started well no issues then tire low pressure alarm..15lbs left rear..told salesman not looking good, call a tech air up tires,
you guessed it….Salesman can not drive manual. Had to go find someone to take it back to service
okay all good, fresh oil, test drive went well, really liked the Mag Ride adjustments, NPP
asked to put it on a rack so as to inspect mag shocks….wow all clean underneath, mag shocks no leak-no weep, all rubber boots in great shape,
then the Death NAIL…DURING OIL CHANGE the tech lost the drain plug, found a hex head screw almost the right the size, obviously forced into place, and of course leaking oil….
doubt it would have made the two hour return drive
said thank you and left
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Hey Folks:
appreciate the quick respones
verdict became a “NO GO” with visit to Dealer,
yep, two hour drive, arrived car is Dirty, as in had not been washed in awhile, oh well, time for test drive….started well no issues then tire low pressure alarm..15lbs left rear..told salesman not looking good, call a tech air up tires,
you guessed it….Salesman can not drive manual. Had to go find someone to take it back to service
okay all good, fresh oil, test drive went well, really liked the Mag Ride adjustments, NPP
asked to put it on a rack so as to inspect mag shocks….wow all clean underneath, mag shocks no leak-no weep, all rubber boots in great shape,
then the Death NAIL…DURING OIL CHANGE the tech lost the drain plug, found a hex head screw almost the right the size, obviously forced into place, and of course leaking oil….
doubt it would have made the two hour return drive
said thank you and left
As expected, brake fluid was a reasonable indicator of the maintenance and care the car's received (or hasn't). What are the odds the oil change included the right oil and a quality filter...?

You made the right decision - take your time and get one that's been properly cared for. I don't think you'll regret doing so. Good luck in the continued search!
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As expected, brake fluid was a reasonable indicator of the maintenance and care the car's received (or hasn't).

What are the odds the oil change included the right oil and a quality filter...?
Why do you say that? I know when I started with MB more back in the mid 90s, 2 year brake flushes were recommended service for when you brought it in. When did they start that with domestic cars? Even a few years ago, people didn't believe that they had to change brake fluid because it was a sealed system.

A whole lot better than the fluid being properly flushed.
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The thing I can't believe is the tech lost the drain plug, how can that happen in the oil change bay? Dealerships just astound me at their incompetence.
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The thing I can't believe is the tech lost the drain plug, how can that happen in the oil change bay? Dealerships just astound me at their incompetence.
Anyone can drop a drain plug. I have. What astounds me is that people think that a good tech is doing the oil change and that "dealership" means all techs are perfect. I'm not an ASE certified tech myself or even gone through all the classes to be one. I can get a job tomorrow as a lube tech and that is probably who is doing the oil change unless you specify the mechanic. These are kids who just want the money and won't be too interested in much else. Today, you offer me $15 and I'll take it. Tomorrow someone offers me $16 and I'm there. I have no career with the vocation, much less the job itself.

Guy drops the oil drain plug. Fine. Rather than look for it or get the right one, lets move on to get this job over with and cram something that will fix the leak. See guy mentioned above. Think I care what happens when you find out? If I am gone, good luck to you. If I am there, go ahead and fire me because tomorrow I will get a new job and they won't know what a crap job I do. Remember, you can't ask my previous employer for a reference anymore.
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