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I recently supercharged my M7 Grand Sport with the V3-Si A&A kit. I am on the CARB-compliant tune, and everything is stock other than the blower and a cat-back. The car put down 572 WHP on their dyno.
I was under the impression that on these LT1s, as long as you keep them under around 650-700 WHP, you should be safe without having to strengthen internals. However, the owner of A&A advised against doing 60-130 pulls, as I am risking blowing the motor. I want to be able to actually push the car and not worry about ruining my entire engine. Based on experience, have any LT1 owners had issues around the same power level that I am currently at? I don't like feeling like my car is on thin ice, and I can't push it how I want without fear of blowing my engine.
Should I just try to trade for a Z06 at this point? I still want more power, but I don't feel safe pushing this car even more without strengthening the internals.
I recently supercharged my M7 Grand Sport with the V3-Si A&A kit. I am on the CARB-compliant tune, and everything is stock other than the blower and a cat-back. The car put down 572 WHP on their dyno.
I was under the impression that on these LT1s, as long as you keep them under around 650-700 WHP, you should be safe without having to strengthen internals. However, the owner of A&A advised against doing 60-130 pulls, as I am risking blowing the motor. I want to be able to actually push the car and not worry about ruining my entire engine. Based on experience, have any LT1 owners had issues around the same power level that I am currently at? I don't like feeling like my car is on thin ice, and I can't push it how I want without fear of blowing my engine.
Should I just try to trade for a Z06 at this point? I still want more power, but I don't feel safe pushing this car even more without strengthening the internals.
If your tuner sucks then it will pop on a WOT rip from 0-100. The LT1 isn’t as weak as people make seem… just **** tuners turning off knock sensors. I recommend an LT4 high side and JMS voltage booster+ flex sensor. Leave the boost at 8psi max. Run an e50-e60 blend and the car will love it.
I’m currently running e60 no meth on 7psi. Car runs like a beast!
I recommend Internet Ninjas or Greg Huggins. The Gen v’s are very complex and only a handful of people understand how to tune them. I found Greg on HPTuners forum. The guy is very knowledgeable and patient
at minimum you need an LT4 Highside + delete the stock check valve and replace with leignfelter check valve. You also need the baro breakout to properly tune them with a centri
With a Procharger kit and nothing else making 570 whp 530 rwtq in Texas heat I did probably over 100 40-150 pulls. 30k street miles and some 30 track days where the car saw 250+ coolant temp. + a couple of missed 4th gears.
you’ll be peeeeeeeerfectly fine if your tune isn’t crap.
I recently supercharged my M7 Grand Sport with the V3-Si A&A kit. I am on the CARB-compliant tune, and everything is stock other than the blower and a cat-back. The car put down 572 WHP on their dyno.
I was under the impression that on these LT1s, as long as you keep them under around 650-700 WHP, you should be safe without having to strengthen internals. However, the owner of A&A advised against doing 60-130 pulls, as I am risking blowing the motor. I want to be able to actually push the car and not worry about ruining my entire engine. Based on experience, have any LT1 owners had issues around the same power level that I am currently at? I don't like feeling like my car is on thin ice, and I can't push it how I want without fear of blowing my engine.
Should I just try to trade for a Z06 at this point? I still want more power, but I don't feel safe pushing this car even more without strengthening the internals.
Wait, did A&A install and tune your car? I picked up that same kit from Andy weeks ago and he said he'll tune it for me also and he told me the same thing not to push it but maybe he was just being conservative and he's like 2 hours me from me so i'm still debating. How was the install and how's the car drives after Andy tuned it any quirks?
Yea I had them do the install and tune for me. I did throw a CEL like three times for some air flow sensor which Andy was able to fix by tweaking the tune but other than that it's been fine. I just don't like that he's said multiple times that I shouldn't be doing 60-130 pulls or really be pushing the car too hard, yet most other comments I see on here and from other shops say that I should be fine as long as the tune isn't ****
Wait, did A&A install and tune your car? I picked up that same kit from Andy weeks ago and he said he'll tune it for me also and he told me the same thing not to push it but maybe he was just being conservative and he's like 2 hours me from me so i'm still debating. How was the install and how's the car drives after Andy tuned it any quirks?
Yea I had them do the install and tune for me. I did throw a CEL like three times for some air flow sensor which Andy was able to fix by tweaking the tune but other than that it's been fine. I just don't like that he's said multiple times that I shouldn't be doing 60-130 pulls or really be pushing the car too hard, yet most other comments I see on here and from other shops say that I should be fine as long as the tune isn't ****
With a Procharger kit and nothing else making 570 whp 530 rwtq in Texas heat I did probably over 100 40-150 pulls. 30k street miles and some 30 track days where the car saw 250+ coolant temp. + a couple of missed 4th gears.
you’ll be peeeeeeeerfectly fine if your tune isn’t crap.
If your tuner sucks then it will pop on a WOT rip from 0-100. The LT1 isn’t as weak as people make seem… just **** tuners turning off knock sensors. I recommend an LT4 high side and JMS voltage booster+ flex sensor. Leave the boost at 8psi max. Run an e50-e60 blend and the car will love it.
I’m currently running e60 no meth on 7psi. Car runs like a beast!
I recommend Internet Ninjas or Greg Huggins. The Gen v’s are very complex and only a handful of people understand how to tune them. I found Greg on HPTuners forum. The guy is very knowledgeable and patient
at minimum you need an LT4 Highside + delete the stock check valve and replace with leignfelter check valve. You also need the baro breakout to properly tune them with a centri
Roger that I'll check it out. Thank you for the info
Did he tell you why? Did he recommend anything like LT4 HPFP and LT4 injectors? Did he say it was due to keeping the car CARB compliant? I have been running a Procharger and headers for about two years with stock internals on 93 octane. I did half mile runs at Texas Mile to 0-150's.
Did he tell you why? Did he recommend anything like LT4 HPFP and LT4 injectors? Did he say it was due to keeping the car CARB compliant? I have been running a Procharger and headers for about two years with stock internals on 93 octane. I did half mile runs at Texas Mile to 0-150's.
No not really he just said if I do plan on beating on it to put a bottle of Torco in it as well. Upon further research it seems that stuff can cause additional issues so I've just been running 91 pump gas. Also unsure if the CARB compliant tune is the issue, but it seems everyone has the same consensus that if the tune isn't ****, then I should be fine, but I went with A&A to do the install and tune since I figured they would be one of the safest options. After spending nearly $9,000 for the install and tune, hearing that I can't push the car safely doesn't sit well with me.
I agree, why put the supercharge on if you cant use it. I had a few reasons why I didn't go with A&A, this just adds to the list. If you are looking for another tuner I used Pat G, very knowledgable and easy to work with.
I agree, why put the supercharge on if you cant use it. I had a few reasons why I didn't go with A&A, this just adds to the list. If you are looking for another tuner I used Pat G, very knowledgable and easy to work with.
Thanks I'll check him out. What else about A&A made you not want to go with them?
Thanks I'll check him out. What else about A&A made you not want to go with them?
The intercooler, prochargers is bigger and offered in a vertical mount. Seems like it offers better cooling. I still can’t figure out why they would offer this kit and tell you the car can’t handle a pull to 120. Seems like that should be disclosed before you buy it.
why do you care about why one guy didn’t choose a&a….It’s irrelevant. Your car has an A&A kit.
The reason why he’s telling you not do long pulls is because his own personal car blew up. Again, whether it’s procharger, ECS, A&A or LT4 supercharger it can all blow up. If you don’t know how to tune gen v’s then what do you expect to happen… guaranteed you are on stock map and don’t even have a baro breakout lol. I actually wouldn’t romp on it until you get a wideband on it and have a real tuner dial it in.
its a really easy solution. Buy HPTuners, buy an AEM (30-0300) wideband, buy a baro breakout, buy ls9 map. Use Greg Huggins on HPTuners or Internetninjas on CF to tune the car. Done.
why do you care about why one guy didn’t choose a&a….It’s irrelevant. Your car has an A&A kit.
The reason why he’s telling you not do long pulls is because his own personal car blew up. Again, whether it’s procharger, ECS, A&A or LT4 supercharger it can all blow up. If you don’t know how to tune gen v’s then what do you expect to happen… guaranteed you are on stock map and don’t even have a baro breakout lol. I actually wouldn’t romp on it until you get a wideband on it and have a real tuner dial it in.
its a really easy solution. Buy HPTuners, buy an AEM (30-0300) wideband, buy a baro breakout, buy ls9 map. Use Greg Huggins on HPTuners or Internetninjas on CF to tune the car. Done.
You think A&A doesn't know how to tune a supercharged LT1?
LT1 Supercharged Reliability
