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Old 12-11-2013, 02:59 PM
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Default Do you feel the c7 Z06 will have a specific oriented purpose like the z28?

I am wondering if GM will be focusing entirely on track related performance in the same manner they are approaching the z28 Camaro.

While the z28 quarter mile times are expected to be lower it beat the ZL1 Camaro by a small margin. I wonder if the c7 Z06 will merely serve as a segue to an all around better performing Zr1 given the rumor of forced induction.

Granted there are absolutely no guarantees for a Zr1 to begin with but overall I am concerned about the Z06 losing the appreciation it has gained due to the 427 being a unique engine capable of being modded past 750hp while keeping it NA

The way I feel about the Zr1 is while they are both amazing cars and the Zr1 outperformed the z06 on both the quarter mile and the Nurburgring that the NA motor in the z06 still gives it a strong argument when looking to build or race a car with specific purposes in mind.

I hope this isn't lost on putting forth two forced induction models.
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No.
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Yes... to sell and make gM money.
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The Z06 has always been designed to be a lightweight vehicle but it is not a stripped down vehicle. The Z/28 has optional A/C, carpet and sound deadening material removed. That's not what the Z06 is. The Z06 is a street car so first and foremost, it's going to satisfy those requirements.

So no, it's going to be a street car with track capabilities just like just 99% of the other supercars are designed to be.
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No.

The Z28 was created for a few specific reasons.

1) To compete with the 302 Boss Mustang.

2) Specifically for track enthusiasts who plan on using the car on actual racetrack or race-prepped surface.

3) To exhaust the surplus of LS7 engines caused by lacking C6Z06 sales.




While the Z06 has always been popular with trackday enthusiasts. It is more of a lightweight street car with track capabilities, than a dedicated track car. The Z28 is a purposely stripped down vehicle, designed to deliver the most capable trackday experience. Its not a pure racecar, but its much closer to being one than a factory Z06 ever will.
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I probably didn't emphasis my primary reason for making the thread well enough or articulate it in a clear manner.

With that said however I agree with you all 100%.

I feel like without lightening the car significantly a horsepower boost from forced induction will give the z06 an immediate boost and large advantage perhaps even faster than a ZR1 c6.

What I would love your opinions on is if you feel it will perform better in any major categories IF a ZR1 is,eventually released during the seventh generation.

I feel the 427 gave the last Z06 a serious,argument to be a better buy even after the ZR 1 was released during its sixth generation.

Even if the Z06 is kick *** I feel like it will be more of a segue into a Zr1 if both are forced induction. So I wonder if it will still be "the drivers car" compared to the beast that is the,Zr1 or just it's little brother
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Originally Posted by Daekwan06
The Z28 is a purposely stripped down vehicle, designed to deliver the most capable trackday experience. Its not a pure racecar, but its much closer to being one than a factory Z06 ever will.
I find this funny seeing how the Z06 will outrun it on the track.
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Originally Posted by ibleedgreen
I find this funny seeing how the Z06 will outrun it on the track.
Well the standard argue applies "It's a Corvette" that's like comparing a Super Sized Big Mac Meal at McDonald's to a burger at a nice steakhouse. You get what you pay for.

This coming from an SS Camaro Owner
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I am encouraged that GM is returning the Z28 to its roots, and recognizing the racing heritage of the model. RPO Z06 has much in common with PRO Z28, both being developed to allow the cars to be competitive on the race track. Both models became 'softer' through the generations, the C6 Z06 turning the tide to a great extent. The new Z28 is a no excuses return to racing heritage and nothing would please me more than to see the C7 Z06 follow suit.

http://www.corvettemuseum.org/specs/...6History.shtml
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Absolutely totally agree...as long as they build the car I want...a ZR1 equivalent.


Originally Posted by Bad_AX
I am encouraged that GM is returning the Z28 to its roots, and recognizing the racing heritage of the model. RPO Z06 has much in common with PRO Z28, both being developed to allow the cars to be competitive on the race track. Both models became 'softer' through the generations, the C6 Z06 turning the tide to a great extent. The new Z28 is a no excuses return to racing heritage and nothing would please me more than to see the C7 Z06 follow suit.

http://www.corvettemuseum.org/specs/...6History.shtml
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Originally Posted by Caddylac10
The Z06 has always been designed to be a lightweight vehicle but it is not a stripped down vehicle. The Z/28 has optional A/C, carpet and sound deadening material removed. That's not what the Z06 is. The Z06 is a street car so first and foremost, it's going to satisfy those requirements.

So no, it's going to be a street car with track capabilities just like just 99% of the other supercars are designed to be.

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IMO, GM isn't going to sell many Z28's with no AC, limited sound deadening, radio delete etc..
This is 2013, not the 1960's. I don't think there will be enough of an audience for a car that's hot, loud and uncomfortable in exchange for a modest gain in track times (that can be accounted for with a driver mod). That being said, I think it would be dumb of GM to pattern the C7 Z06 after the Camaro Z28.
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no way jose
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Originally Posted by Snorman
IMO, GM isn't going to sell many Z28's with no AC, limited sound deadening, radio delete etc..
This is 2013, not the 1960's. I don't think there will be enough of an audience for a car that's hot, loud and uncomfortable in exchange for a modest gain in track times (that can be accounted for with a driver mod). That being said, I think it would be dumb of GM to pattern the C7 Z06 after the Camaro Z28.
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Why can't there be one model of the corvette that's not for posers and waxers? Some us won't to drive the wheels off our cars and have some fun doing what they were built to do.
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
Why can't there be one model of the corvette that's not for posers and waxers? Some us won't to drive the wheels off our cars and have some fun doing what they were built to do.
Because I think they'll sell about 10 of them, and about 2/3 of those will be bought by people who claim they bought it because it was the lightest, fastest variant. And they'll tell everybody at Cars and Coffee all about it.
I run the **** out of my cars. My GT500 just spent rough days at Daytona hitting consistent 161-163 mph speeds on the front straight into turn 1. And I wouldn't really want a Z06 with no AC, no radio, no sound deadening, etc..
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IMHO, no...the C7Z will remain targeted at it's current customer demographic. I'm hoping the trademarks reapplied for L88 badging in early 2013 are an indicator of a track designed C7 along the lines of Z28. The L88 was produced in very limited numbers and represents the "holy grail" of Chevrolet's efforts to produce a race car in street legal trim. Google L88 and the purpose and exclusivity become apparent. Recently at auction an L88 Corvette sold for $3.2m.
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Down the road I can see them releasing something similar to the Z/28. This Z06 won't be it.

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Originally Posted by JockItch
Down the road I can see them releasing something similar to the Z/28. This Z06 won't be it.



The "base" Z06 will be for the masses, with as many creature comforts as they can fit in there.

If this happens it will be a certain limited edition variant. And let's all hope it comes to pass.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Because I think they'll sell about 10 of them, and about 2/3 of those will be bought by people who claim they bought it because it was the lightest, fastest variant. And they'll tell everybody at Cars and Coffee all about it.
I run the **** out of my cars. My GT500 just spent rough days at Daytona hitting consistent 161-163 mph speeds on the front straight into turn 1. And I wouldn't really want a Z06 with no AC, no radio, no sound deadening, etc..
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In 1999 Porsche introduced the GT3 in response to growing criticism that the 911 had become soft. They have sold on average about 1,100 GT3s per year. The GT3RS is the bare knuckles version, with more than 80% of owners tracking the cars seriously. It is the GT3 that continues to provide Porsche needed credibility in a world where the storied sports car manufacturer now sells far more sedans and trucks than sports cars.

Corvette needs the Z06 for the same reason Porsche needs the Gt3.
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Originally Posted by heavychevy



The "base" Z06 will be for the masses, with as many creature comforts as they can fit in there.

If this happens it will be a certain limited edition variant. And let's all hope it comes to pass.
The Z06 has never been for the masses. Just look at production numbers relative to the Base C6 and the GS. The GS was for the masses.


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