Mopar Jimmy

The C7 is a hot car that is REALLY growing on me fast, and I we know that every couple years GM likes to come up with its latest and greatest high HP crazy performance Vette, to keep sales rocking and to be the king of the hill vs Ford and Mopar, and my guess is that the upcoming C7 Z06 will probably have between around 575 to 600 HP, with the a C7 ZR1 (or whatever else they call the next high performance model in a few years) making at least 700 ponies.

Million dollor question- Do you agree or disagree, that the upcoming C7 Z06 to be unveiled in the Detroit auto show in a couple weeks will have have as much HP (638 ponies) and will not be as fast as the C6 ZR1 in all the popular performance categories.

We are living in some exciting times regarding the modern HP wars and one would think that since the 2014 Viper makes 640 HP and the 2013 Mustang makes approx 662 HP, that the new high performance C7 Z06 to be unveiled in January might beat those HP numbers to be top dog when it comes to HP made, b/c as we know there is a lot more to the car than HP, but HPower does sell all day long and the big 3 love to be top dog when it comes to that topic.

My final opinion is that the C7 Z06 with LESS horsepower that the C6 ZR1 will outperform the C6 ZR1 in most categories (with less horsepower).

Thanks for your intelligible input!

BeaZt

If the C7Z has the same or more HP I think it will edge the C6ZR1 in all categories. If it has less I think it will beat the C6ZR1 in all but the 1320...but if it comes with an auto option it will beat it there too. Still love the C6ZR1 though.

camirocz

It will beat it in the quarter mile as well.Look at a stock c7 with drag radials going 11.4 s .Much improved traction over our c6 s.zr1 prices will drop as soon as c7 z06 is out.

ZBADESTZ@Straightline

Look at a stock ZR1 on drag radials......

If the C7 doesn't beat it someone might get fired

I know I keep my ZR1 and get a C7 after a few years

NytmereZ

This is going to open a new can of worms with the pro ZR1 people, but IMO the new C7 Z will outperform the previous model ZR1 in every category.
I'm guessing it going to have 605 hp , match that with the new tech the car has, and it won't even need 638. The weight isn't going to matter(just look at how hard the base C7 comes out of the hole, at speed the 20 something extra hp the ZR1 might have( the C7 Z still may have more the 605, that was just my guess) will not mater.
We can't assume there even will be a ZR1 this time out, remember, this is post bailout, and the ZR1 didn't sell that many units due to price, and it not looking any different than then Z06 Sans window hood and some badges
As far as the HP wars, I loved them too, but think they are coming to an end with all the new restrictions.

The C6 wasn't designed for a supercharger, the C7 was, looks to be a centri as well, there won't be a need for a ZR1, unless they are going twin turbo. Which will drive r&D throw the roof, something I don't see GM doing.
We will have to wait and see, but common sense tell me that the Z06 is going to be top dog for a while, looks like the motors are holding up very well so far as well as we have some C7 already in the 9's, while more and more reports of wobbly valves on the LS9 are being reported ala LS7

Shurshot

The competition is always getting faster and if GM wants to keep their competitive edge they too need to "get faster" than the last top dog regular production vette no matter what name it went by.

As far as the new C7Z being the fastest car available......... It will always be a matter of how fast do you want to spend to see how fast you can go

I think the ZR1 was fast enough and I would be satisfied with ZR1 performance matched with C7 on steroid looks, albeit I think it will be faster

camirocz

Basically newer is usually better,The interior is far superior,the heads wont need a rebuild ,the car will be a move up from the 2006 technology of the c6 z06,and 2009 zr1.You re always going to have the smart alecs who say i dont like it and i d never trade my car for the new one.Guess what?they re either ignorant or they re not speaking the truth.New z06 over old zr1?definitely.

ufaj26

I have had my deposit down for sometime in anticipation of a Z06 or ZR1, whichever. We now know it will be a Z06, at least for now. I have a ZR1 and absolutely love it. Each generation should get better and I'm expecting the Z06 to at least slightly exceed the current ZR1 and won't be surprised if its more than slightly. Nothing at all wrong with the ZR1 but the new interior and other goodies plus something around 650 horses (guessing but I expect that will be very close) will put one in my garage!!

Skullbussa

People should not assume there is going to be a ZR1 model in the C7.

icyteddy

For now, we know for sure there will be a C7 Z06. If the C7 Z06 comes up short in performance compare to the C6 ZR1, then we know there will be an even higher model eventually later on. But comes January 2014 with the unveiling of the C7 Z06 and the performance numbers exceeds C6 ZR1, we can only assume the price with be north of $100K and will be the only HI-PO model offer. Look at history, every high performance model always exceeded the previous high end performance model and thus price also increase.

spdislife

I'm just waiting to see the time the C7Z runs at the Nurburgring

Dave Schotz

There will be a C7 ZR1... I think anyone who doesn't believe this, is just living in denial. GM is in the business to sell cars and make money. Any 'trim/model' you can add to the C7 only spreads the cost... same reason C6 ended with Grand Sports, 427 Convertibles etc...

And now all the Z06 guys can start saying how 'great' superchargers are... when for the past 4 years... they've all done nothing but say 'A ZR1 can't be a track car', superchargers aren't meant for the track blah blah blah.

Now the new Z-06 will be out with a supercharger, and weighing more than the C6 ZR1...

Love it!

Dave

K B Vettin

i hope it's faster, either way i'll buy the fastest version of the c7 in 2016

racerns

I am not sure why people think the C7Z will be faster if it has less HP than the ZR1 at least in straight line speed. They would have to do some significant weight reduction. Now for track performance, I can see them doing somethings with aerodynamics and suspension improvements to get better times if it has less hp and equal or more weight.

Now if they offer it with an auto then it would have the potential to be much quicker off the line thus quicker standing start acceleration times.

Lavender

Wasnt the C5Z faster than the C4ZR-1 with 20 less hp....? I believe it was and by quite alot.

09Z06pj

I'm excited about the C7 Z and look forward to its unveiling. I'm sure it will be a great car and will probably exceed most all performance numbers put down by the ZR1. Newer is almost always better and the Z should be no exception. With that said, the C6 ZR1 was and still is a fantastic car. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. Further, if GM thinks they can turn a profit on a C7 ZR1, there will be one. They are in the business to make money.

BTW, for those that keep saying the LS9 is having valve train issues similar to the LS7, please post a link or other information to support what you're saying. I'm interested in seeing it.

Daekwan06

GM has already said the upcoming Z car will be the "most track capable Corvette ever". Since they didn't say the upcoming Z car will be the "fastest, most track capable" Corvette ever. Then I expect the C6ZR1 to hold the speed crown, but to be outperformed by the C7Z06 in every category but speed.

Remember the new car will be heavier by around 100lbs. Unless it has 650 or more hp.. then the C6ZR1 should still be faster.

427500

The C5 Z06 was 3118 lbs. vs 3500 lbs for the C4 ZR-1, that's the difference.

racerns

The C7Z is not going to be 400lb lighter than the ZR1.

Lavender