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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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I know it's early and not much info but how far can this SC motor be de-tuned you think?

In order to stay in my current class, I would need an 8:1 power to weight ratio (including driver). Basically let's say the car puts 590 to the rear. Could it be de-tuned to 460 without damaging anything?
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I know it's early and not much info but how far can this SC motor be de-tuned you think?

In order to stay in my current class, I would need an 8:1 power to weight ratio (including driver). Basically let's say the car puts 590 to the rear. Could it be de-tuned to 460 without damaging anything?
detuning the normally aspirated engine will be simple with intake restrictions.

And less weight = faster cornering
even if the power:weight is the same as a heavier car.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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OP - given those rules constraints for your class, you'd be better off buying a Z51 Stingray with M7 (to avoid A8 overheating issues), and add some aero and brakes.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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What are you allowed to do detuning wise, is it an air restrictor only?

If not, the Z07 should be the best base. Take out the supercharger entirely. What's left will basically be a most reliable engine option ever. A normally aspired LT4 should last far more than the LT1 counterpart.
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
What are you allowed to do detuning wise, is it an air restrictor only?

If not, the Z07 should be the best base. Take out the supercharger entirely. What's left will basically be a most reliable engine option ever. A normally aspired LT4 should last far more than the LT1 counterpart.
The LT-4 does have some stouter parts. If you remove the SC, all controls will have to be reprogrammed.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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The LT-4 does have some stouter parts. If you remove the SC, all controls will have to be reprogrammed.
The compression ratio is lower at 10:1 but a tune, intake, intake manifold should yield 460hp. Then you have a stronger crank, pistons, rods, head casting, valves, higher capacity fuel system, etc.

More power will make it to the ground via lighter moving parts: crank pulley, CF drive shaft, CF rotors.

Then there is the stuff that will really make the car faster, like 335 section tires, aero, and tireless CCB brakes.

The Z07 looks like a no-brainer to me.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Could it be de-tuned to 460 without damaging anything?
Simple solution...just don't turn on the supercharger! The Z06 has this option!!!
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 10:20 PM
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Simple solution...just don't turn on the supercharger! The Z06 has this option!!!
Great info! I did not know that. Do you have a link for that ? Looking for official #'s on that
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Simple solution...just don't turn on the supercharger! The Z06 has this option!!!


huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
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Great info! I did not know that. Do you have a link for that ? Looking for official #'s on that
I'll have to dig to see where I saw this...I believe it is one of the eco-mode options
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I read where the LT4 has 3 modes...V4, V8, and V8 with supercharger...no where did I read these modes are user selectable. I suspect this is a grand way of saying that developing boost when AFM is in V4 makes not sense, and when in V8 mode if you stick your foot in it the boost will kick in.
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Originally Posted by LT1xL82
I read where the LT4 has 3 modes...V4, V8, and V8 with supercharger...no where did I read these modes are user selectable. I suspect this is a grand way of saying that developing boost when AFM is in V4 makes not sense, and when in V8 mode if you stick your foot in it the boost will kick in.
This could be good regardless. If this is possible (running the car without the charger), then if you can't manually select it, then I'm sure it can be tuned to be shut off entirely. This could work!
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Originally Posted by Toilets
I know it's early and not much info but how far can this SC motor be de-tuned you think?

In order to stay in my current class, I would need an 8:1 power to weight ratio (including driver). Basically let's say the car puts 590 to the rear. Could it be de-tuned to 460 without damaging anything?
just buy a z51.Why would you spend all that extra cash and then slow the car down?Makes no sense to even go there.
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Originally Posted by LT1xL82
I read where the LT4 has 3 modes...V4, V8, and V8 with supercharger...no where did I read these modes are user selectable. I suspect this is a grand way of saying that developing boost when AFM is in V4 makes not sense, and when in V8 mode if you stick your foot in it the boost will kick in.
The LS9 has a bypass valve that is open when the engine is under light load that keeps the blower from building boost. I assume the LT4 will be the same. There is a solenoid that controls the bypass valve. On the LS9 if you unplug this solenoid, the bypass remains open and the blower never builds boost (~2 psi). This really "detunes" the engine but it may be more than you want. I am some combination of inlet restriction and tuning could be worked out also.

What class are you running? TT2? I just can't see you being that competitive trying to detune a Z07. Why not do TT1?
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