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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Did we ever have the 2nd Consensus or is it this week?

Let's start with the A8's soon!
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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last week got pushed off again i believe
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Would they do a second order before the first has started production? Hurry up and wait? Maybe this could help scheduling.
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I wonder if they are pushing it back until the auto is available since they have enough M7 orders to get to that point?

I would think GM would **** off a bunch of the smaller dealers if they loose allocation because they don't want to order an M7 when the waiting list has all Auto's.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Kinda...

My dealer (a little guy with 2 allocated Z06's) received 1 last week. However, he told me that it will actually be accepted either this Thursday 10/16 or the following Thursday 10/23. He mentioned a TPW but in my excitement I forgot what it was. Late November I believe. I am going in to finalize my order this week and will have better info then.



Be patient guys, we will be getting our cars soon
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Todd
I wonder if they are pushing it back until the auto is available since they have enough M7 orders to get to that point?

I would think GM would **** off a bunch of the smaller dealers if they loose allocation because they don't want to order an M7 when the waiting list has all Auto's.
It might **** off a customer, but the dealer won't pass on the allocation and would sell the car either way.

Dealership could always trade the allocation to a dealer with a M7 needed then get the allocation back from the same dealer later in the MY once the A8 is available
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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my father inlaw got the call to meet w/his salesman to get his ordered thursday. so i take it he has another allocation. the seller had allocation on 9/18 and my father inlaw couldn't meet with him so he lost his initial spot.
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Those of us who got manual will see their cars way before anyone else sees theirs!
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
Those of us who got manual will see their cars way before anyone else sees theirs!
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
Those of us who got manual will see their cars way before anyone else sees theirs!
I'm not too sure of that but that's probably because I'm waiting on the A8. The first batch of Z06/Z07 will probably sit in the yard for at least 4 weeks on QC hold. If they delay the A8 by a month we should see A8's being built and delivered about the same time as the M7's.

I can hope, can't I????
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Originally Posted by time2run
I'm not too sure of that but that's probably because I'm waiting on the A8. The first batch of Z06/Z07 will probably sit in the yard for at least 4 weeks on QC hold. If they delay the A8 by a month we should see A8's being built and delivered about the same time as the M7's.

I can hope, can't I????
I don't think so. The engine is the only thing that can keep the cars bayed for a long time. Gm already built dozens of lt4s
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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
Those of us who got manual will see their cars way before anyone else sees theirs!
Well I hope your right .... Im at 3000, however we have found through experience that many of the first C7's sat in the parking lot until hundreds of C7s were there. Some were stuck in a hold for many weeks while later orders were delivered sooner.

Hopefully we will not see that here.

We did not forget this time already ... did we?


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Originally Posted by SBC_and_a_stick
Those of us who got manual will see their cars way before anyone else sees theirs!
You really think so? That'd be sweet, but I'm not counting on ANYTHING until I'm at the museum and see the car with my own two eyes.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmbarney
Well I hope your right .... Im at 3000, however we have found through experience that many of the first C7's sat in the parking lot until hundreds of C7s were there. Some were stuck in a hold for many weeks while later orders were delivered sooner.

Hopefully we will not see that here.
Yep, don't forget about the first 500 or so that went to Nashville for several weeks more. I don't want to pi$$ on anybody's parade because I'm just as eager to get the car in my garage as quickly as possible but I gotta think there will be some initial QC delays before the first batch gets delivered.
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Originally Posted by time2run
Yep, don't forget about the first 500 or so that went to Nashville for several weeks more. I don't want to pi$$ on anybody's parade because I'm just as eager to get the car in my garage as quickly as possible but I gotta think there will be some initial QC delays before the first batch gets delivered.


that is why they didnt announce 2nd ordering go round yet i am guessing, they didnt want to have a SNAFU like the 1st batch of c7's if there are delays
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You really think so? That'd be sweet, but I'm not counting on ANYTHING until I'm at the museum and see the car with my own two eyes.
Yeah I don't see why not. Even if only 20% of the orders are manual there should be enough manuals to get a large shipping order going.
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School me a little here, I placed a deposit a while back z07/M7 and my dealer hasnt even gave me an order number yet, says gm hasnt picked up the order, does that mean I didnt make it on the first consensus and may make the 2nd? Im not in a big rush, just wondering, he said he estimated march/april maybe earlier before I receive my car.
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Originally Posted by Jared@RPP
School me a little here, I placed a deposit a while back z07/M7 and my dealer hasnt even gave me an order number yet, says gm hasnt picked up the order, does that mean I didnt make it on the first consensus and may make the 2nd? Im not in a big rush, just wondering, he said he estimated march/april maybe earlier before I receive my car.
Jared,
If your dealer has typed your order into his computer, he should have an order number for you. Some dealer won't put an order in the system until they know they have an allocation for it. Others will do it as soon as you go in and sign an offer. On our first C7, we had an order in for a convertible before the model year started, as soon as the dealer could actually enter it in the computer. Once it's in the computer, the dealer can get your status with a few keystrokes. For some reason, certain dealers treat this info like nuclear launch codes, and won't divulge your status without water boarding. On the other hand, a good dealer will keep you informed. My dealer for the last two vettes, Fichtner (now Rimrock) Chevy, sent me weekly updates, as well as a PDF copy of the OrderWORKBENCH document (from their internal computer ordering system,) whenever the status changed. The internal system has almost thirty different codes, and is much more informative than the very primitive GM tracking site. Here is a link to the codes we know of:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1585921744

Obviously, if GM hasn't picked your order up (status 2000,) you didn't make the first consensus. As has been speculated above, when GM has a new model, even when it's just a variant of an existing car, they generally have a Quality Control hold of 2-4 weeks so they have all the initial cars ready on hand in case something shows up in the QC checks. It's much easier to fix in the plant than at hundreds of different dealer shops.

As an example, I have one of the first '13 427 convertibles, #41. Even though it is just a cross between a Z06 and a GS convertible, they had a 4 week QC hold at the plant, before shipping.

I've ordered an A8 Z06 and don't expect it before January, but since my dealer only has a few allocations, and there is no telling how GM will spread them out over the model year, it may be the Mar/April timeframe. There is about 8 months of production left, and if your dealer only gets, say 4 cars, he may not get the next car for another 2 months. Obviously, since your getting an M7 car, for the moment, you will go to the head of your dealers list, but once A8 cars start coming down the line, the M7s will no longer have priority.
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could someone help me with the QC issue after the units are built. They are sent somewhere and just sit, for what reason? Is each one being gone over carefully to see that they are "right" before they are shipped to dealers? Why does it takes weeks to do that? Not being critical, I just don't understand the process.
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Jared,
If your dealer has typed your order into his computer, he should have an order number for you. Some dealer won't put an order in the system until they know they have an allocation for it. Others will do it as soon as you go in and sign an offer. On our first C7, we had an order in for a convertible before the model year started, as soon as the dealer could actually enter it in the computer. Once it's in the computer, the dealer can get your status with a few keystrokes. For some reason, certain dealers treat this info like nuclear launch codes, and won't divulge your status without water boarding. On the other hand, a good dealer will keep you informed. My dealer for the last two vettes, Fichtner (now Rimrock) Chevy, sent me weekly updates, as well as a PDF copy of the OrderWORKBENCH document (from their internal computer ordering system,) whenever the status changed. The internal system has almost thirty different codes, and is much more informative than the very primitive GM tracking site. Here is a link to the codes we know of:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1585921744

Obviously, if GM hasn't picked your order up (status 2000,) you didn't make the first consensus. As has been speculated above, when GM has a new model, even when it's just a variant of an existing car, they generally have a Quality Control hold of 2-4 weeks so they have all the initial cars ready on hand in case something shows up in the QC checks. It's much easier to fix in the plant than at hundreds of different dealer shops.

As an example, I have one of the first '13 427 convertibles, #41. Even though it is just a cross between a Z06 and a GS convertible, they had a 4 week QC hold at the plant, before shipping.

I've ordered an A8 Z06 and don't expect it before January, but since my dealer only has a few allocations, and there is no telling how GM will spread them out over the model year, it may be the Mar/April timeframe. There is about 8 months of production left, and if your dealer only gets, say 4 cars, he may not get the next car for another 2 months. Obviously, since your getting an M7 car, for the moment, you will go to the head of your dealers list, but once A8 cars start coming down the line, the M7s will no longer have priority.
Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up, I feel like I trust the guy, just want to make sure Im not getting any runaround.
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