Traction Control???
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In addition to on-off, there are several options for traction/stability control. As with the C7 Z51, in Track mode, press the traction control button twice and scroll through the five different options. The owner's manual has a good description of the five track modes.
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Correct. You have to consciously select Mode 5 to turn everything off -- something I assume no one would do except on a bone-dry track with paid-up life insurance. The magnetic shocks, stability control, traction control, etc. have real value on the street and the fine-tuning of mode controls allow you to adjust for different conditions without turning everything off.
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Correct. You have to consciously select Mode 5 to turn everything off -- something I assume no one would do except on a bone-dry track with paid-up life insurance. The magnetic shocks, stability control, traction control, etc. have real value on the street and the fine-tuning of mode controls allow you to adjust for different conditions without turning everything off.
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Not that I'm concerned about getting the hang of this but are there any videos that I can watch that show the entire process so I can be an expert by the time the cars rolls through the snow to me? I'm used to one button for on, competition mode, or off. 
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PTM mode 5 is similar to the one in the other GM cars in that all of Stabilitrak is disabled, but the PTM system is still working. Like the ZL1, if you want everything off, hold the button down.
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Having a "completely off" mode these days is way to dangerous to owners AND from a legal and negative publicity standpoint, manufacturers, and there is no company in the history of cars that have had more legal issues than GM in these "lawsuit happy" U S of A
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With 650lb/ft you will never be able to COMPLETELY turn it off Just like ALL major supercars these days it will say "off" but what it means is that it will intervene only if you cross the cars dynamic abilities just like P1 918, LaFerrari , Huayra , Aventador ,650s, 911 turbo, Nismo GTR and the list goes on and on ..It will let you have some slip but won't let you kill yourself
Having a "completely off" mode these days is way to dangerous to owners AND from a legal and negative publicity standpoint, manufacturers, and there is no company in the history of cars that have had more legal issues than GM in these "lawsuit happy" U S of A
Having a "completely off" mode these days is way to dangerous to owners AND from a legal and negative publicity standpoint, manufacturers, and there is no company in the history of cars that have had more legal issues than GM in these "lawsuit happy" U S of A
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There are aftermarket ways of doing everything but that's another question .
And lastly after the "crash reports" we have been seeing GM will be even MORE determined to ensure they are not sued for selling dangerous cars
And for all the so called purists who are up in arms about this just know that you can't turn off ABS either and that's the biggest "nanny" of all and we have accepted that as standard, just like "always on TC to some degree" will now be standard
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Thats what they say but never do and it's standard practice these days it's so cleaver most times we never notice it's termed "unobtrusive" and VERY necessary for our newer faster cars with more unforgiving sport tires especially when cold
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I assure you, you're opining about things you really don't know anything about. When you deactivate the system, it's deactivated. It will do precisely nothing to save you or the car. If you throw it into a spin like that, both feet in and hang on for the ride of your life because the car isn't going to do anything to help other than rapidly actuate the brake calipers.
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I assure you, you're opining about things you really don't know anything about. When you deactivate the system, it's deactivated. It will do precisely nothing to save you or the car. If you throw it into a spin like that, both feet in and hang on for the ride of your life because the car isn't going to do anything to help other than rapidly actuate the brake calipers.
1. They leave the ABS always on
2. In order for the ABS to work properly they have to leave the traction control on to "monitor" road condition but " unobtrusively" (according to them)
3."Unobtrusive" means not intervening with driver input "except" where said intervention is to facilitate the proper operation of the ABS
All that with a little smirk on their faces and when pressed they always admit its the company "brass" that has the final say on "safety" ( you have to admit this was brilliant)
Lawsuits on Euro car companies are almost non existent and on US car companies are prevalent ..So answer this do you think the CEOs at GM are going to leave themselves in actionable legal positions by not doing what their counterparts do and exposing their customers to harm or partake in the same "ruse" of "Unobtrusive" TC and full ABS ?
I don't agree with the "ruse" but fully understand it ...This is how I came to my LOGICAL conclusion
Last edited by dio55; Nov 15, 2014 at 06:53 PM.