C7 Z06 computer
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Burning Brakes
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C7 Z06 computer
It seems everyone is getting upset that the new Z06 is losing races and the timing is being pulled out at a very conservative rate, etc...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
Team Owner
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It seems everyone is getting upset that the new Z06 is losing races and the timing is being pulled out at a very conservative rate, etc...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
The very first video posted showed a C7 Z06 getting beat in seven races by a Viper....and the C7 Z06 had 700 miles on the odometer.
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Burning Brakes
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Perhaps the predetermined mileage is something like 1,000 miles? All I'm saying is that no one even has a 1,000 miles on their car yet and they are already racing. I guess time will tell.
Last edited by db2012gs; Dec 16, 2014 at 02:33 PM.
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Drifting
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You see, when there are conflicts like this, along with all the other contradictory information going around, it doesn't do anything to inspire at least me. It makes me nervous. The only solution is to sit back and wait for the true performance in the field.
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I agree that the manual says wait until 1,500 before tracking etc, but where does it say to NEVER go WOT before 1,500 miles, after 500 miles is reached. Isn't that what the Z06 in question did, just ran WOT for maybe 15 seconds at a time and did not run for 20 minutes hard on the track?
In fact, doesn't the tach switch over from 4,000 RPM to 6,500 RPM when the odometer reaches 500 miles. I would assume that means it is okay to go WOT after 500 miles, as most people don't drive around at 6,500 RPM without going WOT to reach that 6,500 RPM. In fact it says not to do full throttle(AKA WOT) starts under 500 miles, not 1,500 miles.
Seems to me that the owner of the Z06 didn't violate the owners manual by going WOT for around 15 seconds with 700 Miles on the odometer.
In fact, doesn't the tach switch over from 4,000 RPM to 6,500 RPM when the odometer reaches 500 miles. I would assume that means it is okay to go WOT after 500 miles, as most people don't drive around at 6,500 RPM without going WOT to reach that 6,500 RPM. In fact it says not to do full throttle(AKA WOT) starts under 500 miles, not 1,500 miles.
Seems to me that the owner of the Z06 didn't violate the owners manual by going WOT for around 15 seconds with 700 Miles on the odometer.
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Burning Brakes
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I agree that the manual says wait until 1,500 before tracking etc, but where does it say to NEVER go WOT before 1,500 miles, after 500 miles is reached. Isn't that what the Z06 in question did, just ran WOT for maybe 15 seconds at a time and did not run for 20 minutes hard on the track?
In fact, doesn't the tach switch over from 4,000 RPM to 6,500 RPM when the odometer reaches 500 miles. I would assume that means it is okay to go WOT after 500 miles, as most people don't drive around at 6,500 RPM without going WOT to reach that 6,500 RPM. In fact it says not to do full throttle(AKA WOT) starts under 500 miles, not 1,500 miles.
Seems to me that the owner of the Z06 didn't violate the owners manual by going WOT for around 15 seconds with 700 Miles on the odometer.
In fact, doesn't the tach switch over from 4,000 RPM to 6,500 RPM when the odometer reaches 500 miles. I would assume that means it is okay to go WOT after 500 miles, as most people don't drive around at 6,500 RPM without going WOT to reach that 6,500 RPM. In fact it says not to do full throttle(AKA WOT) starts under 500 miles, not 1,500 miles.
Seems to me that the owner of the Z06 didn't violate the owners manual by going WOT for around 15 seconds with 700 Miles on the odometer.
In the end it's an awesome car and who cares what it can and can't beat? There will always be someone faster out there. So unless you're trying to win a world championship or something, enjoy owning a track capable car that isn't just fast in a straight line.
Months to a year from now, after all the mags and online testing is done, and they are no longer new, this will no longer be an issue in anyones mind. I think people are too impatient. In due time the true potential will come out.
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It seems everyone is getting upset that the new Z06 is losing races and the timing is being pulled out at a very conservative rate, etc...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
Drifting
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I don't think the WOT for 15 seconds is the problem, it says not to participate in a track events, the difference being obvious because there will be multiple/continuos WOT and hard braking involved. Perhaps the continous or multiple WOT pulls alerts the computer it is a track type event? We can only speculate as to what the program looks for during this first 1500 miles.
In the end it's an awesome car and who cares what it can and can't beat? There will always be someone faster out there. So unless you're trying to win a world championship or something, enjoy owning a track capable car that isn't just fast in a straight line.
Months to a year from now, after all the mags and online testing is done, and they are no longer new, this will no longer be an issue in anyones mind. I think people are too impatient. In due time the true potential will come out.
In the end it's an awesome car and who cares what it can and can't beat? There will always be someone faster out there. So unless you're trying to win a world championship or something, enjoy owning a track capable car that isn't just fast in a straight line.
Months to a year from now, after all the mags and online testing is done, and they are no longer new, this will no longer be an issue in anyones mind. I think people are too impatient. In due time the true potential will come out.
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Burning Brakes
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Its not a matter of beating somebody. Its not a matter of what some stupid video shows. Its a matter of being told the car is the most high performance Corvette ever made yet the implications now are something else. If you buy it for the track but have to park it and not participate at the track, what good is it? Going to park it at the track on display as an example of a shiny new toy that can't perform?
Drifting
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We can only hope.
Racer
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It would really, really help if Tadge (sp?) or some one else at GM with gravitas would step forward and just TELL US! Many wouldn't believe him either but me and a good number would. Into an information void goes unending speculation....rrm
Melting Slicks
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It seems everyone is getting upset that the new Z06 is losing races and the timing is being pulled out at a very conservative rate, etc...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that GM reps are saying "just break it in". Which to me "hints" that the computer is going to be very consrvative until the break in period is over (the amount of miles GM predetermined), at which point it should no longer be an issue. Which makes sense because they are giving a 100k warranty on a 650hp motor. And from the likes of the posts I have seen, it's probably a good thing they are protecting people from themselves!!!
So I ask this question... has anyone broke in their Z06 yet and then raced? Did you then race repeatedly? Or is everyone going ***** to the wall after 100 miles...lmao!
Just food for thought...
At least thats about what we have seen in other GM cars over the years.
Melting Slicks
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I don't think the WOT for 15 seconds is the problem, it says not to participate in a track events, the difference being obvious because there will be multiple/continuos WOT and hard braking involved. Perhaps the continous or multiple WOT pulls alerts the computer it is a track type event? We can only speculate as to what the program looks for during this first 1500 miles.
In the end it's an awesome car and who cares what it can and can't beat? There will always be someone faster out there. So unless you're trying to win a world championship or something, enjoy owning a track capable car that isn't just fast in a straight line.
Months to a year from now, after all the mags and online testing is done, and they are no longer new, this will no longer be an issue in anyones mind. I think people are too impatient. In due time the true potential will come out.
In the end it's an awesome car and who cares what it can and can't beat? There will always be someone faster out there. So unless you're trying to win a world championship or something, enjoy owning a track capable car that isn't just fast in a straight line.
Months to a year from now, after all the mags and online testing is done, and they are no longer new, this will no longer be an issue in anyones mind. I think people are too impatient. In due time the true potential will come out.
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If you new owners that are obviously ticked over these races in the Vipers favour - stop trying to grasp onto something - it won't turn into 'Supercar' after 500 miles.........geez. Yes break-in will add a few ponies but not alot like some of you think and it certainly won't fix heat soak either if that's what the car is seeing. Sometimes I wonder if some of you are bright enough to own this level of a car.
Seriously, I have to stop visiting this C7Z forum - I only do to read good things on this car but seems very little of it.......and little enough to change my future purchase plans.
Seriously, I have to stop visiting this C7Z forum - I only do to read good things on this car but seems very little of it.......and little enough to change my future purchase plans.
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GM does not want to go on public record about anything, so don't expect any replies from them, about anything.