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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Ok so its finally 50 out an im stil having traction issues.if its sliding left to right does that mean to much gas or not enough lol,my last car was awd so i could just slam the peddle down an hold on so this is quite a different beast.Anyone have some good techniques...do i lightly hit the gas an then Slowly mash as i get traction?
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I don't own a C7Z, but have owned/still own/raced exclusively RWD cars with lots of TQ for over 20 years.

Yes, you are going to have to feather the throttle based on a lot of variables with a high-TQ RWD car. It takes a lot of practice, and even then slight changes in temp of tires/temp of road surface/road surface _condition_, etc will mean altering your aggressive use of the throttle.

Same applies when taking off from a dead stop. Using the proper amount of clutch is critical. I don't like replacing clutches anymore, so I typically prefer a mild launch, and then smooth throttle input, instead of slipping the clutch a lot (these clutches can take some low-rpm slippage... you're not hurting anything).

Good luck, keep practicing and enjoy!

PS: and don't be afraid of a little wheelspin. Accelerating through very mild wheelspin is not bad b/c you're keeping the rpms up and climbing, rather than bogging the car. Obviously, massive wheelspin is unwanted, though.
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I don't own a C7Z, but have owned/still own/raced exclusively RWD cars with lots of TQ for over 20 years.

Yes, you are going to have to feather the throttle based on a lot of variables with a high-TQ RWD car. It takes a lot of practice, and even then slight changes in temp of tires/temp of road surface/road surface _condition_, etc will mean altering your aggressive use of the throttle.

Same applies when taking off from a dead stop. Using the proper amount of clutch is critical. I don't like replacing clutches anymore, so I typically prefer a mild launch, and then smooth throttle input, instead of slipping the clutch a lot (these clutches can take some low-rpm slippage... you're not hurting anything).

Good luck, keep practicing and enjoy!

PS: and don't be afraid of a little wheelspin. Accelerating through very mild wheelspin is not bad b/c you're keeping the rpms up and climbing, rather than bogging the car. Obviously, massive wheelspin is unwanted, though.
My last ride had launch control at 5500 rpms stock so very much different.how many rpms do people launch high hp rwd at when being hard on them.now is wheel spin "just" the wheels spinning or is that when it fishtails i never got the terminology.
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My last ride had launch control at 5500 rpms stock so very much different.how many rpms do people launch high hp rwd at when being hard on them.
Again, it will depend on a lot of things... but for now I'll assume you are running stock rubber and not a drag radial or slicks.

Start at 2000, with a little clutch slip... depending on your throttle input, it could bog a little. If so, raise it to 2500. Work up from there. Every driver will be a little different on street tires b/c you will _never_ have maximum grip by doing a clutch dump. So throttle input as you squeeze it, while riding out the clutch a little, looks different for each driver. Some guys ride the clutch a lot... if so, higher rpm launches can be had...again, its a driving style, so you have to see what works for you, the way you drive the car, on the tires you have, based on road surface conditions and temp.
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NT05R. It will solve all of your [car] problems.
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NT05R. It will solve all of your [car] problems.
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Originally Posted by EdwardETraylorIII
NT05R. It will solve all of your [car] problems.
The old Nittos NT05 were great dry traction but they always seemed to feel greasy after a few runs,never heard of the r version.
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Nittos will help, but even with that tire you have to roll into the gas in second gear or you will be spinning. MT's have better grip to match your RWTQ.
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50 degrees air temp doesn't equal 50 degrees road temp....still too cold for these tires (especially Cup 2's) with 650 ft-lbs TQ
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
50 degrees air temp doesn't equal 50 degrees road temp....still too cold for these tires (especially Cup 2's) with 650 ft-lbs TQ
Gota use that brain of mine
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Whats the best psi in 50 degree weather.i have a feeling theres to much.
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No. 70 degrees in Cali.: no. Cup 2's are powerless. Lt4 dominates the experience.
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