Does allocation guarantee build?
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Racer
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Does allocation guarantee build?
In another thread someone mentioned there are over 5600 confirmed orders but GM will only build +/- 4000 Z06s in 2015. If that is true and my dealer has an allocation does this guarantee my car will get built as ordered? Or, since less unit will be built than orders placed is my order potentially destined to sit at 1100 forever regardless of having an allocation?
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Order acceptance by GM is the key element of a guarantee to build. Whether the dealer's allocation is compatible with constraints and the specifics of your particular order are unknown until the dealer actually receives the details that constrain his order. That is, when your dealer is given the opportunity to order it will have very specific constraints which may or may not fit your specific configuration. However, once your order is submitted to and accepted by GM you have a reasobaly firm guarantee that the car will be built as ordered.
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Racer
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Order acceptance by GM is the key element of a guarantee to build. Whether the dealer's allocation is compatible with constraints and the specifics of your particular order are unknown until the dealer actually receives the details that constrain his order. That is, when your dealer is given the opportunity to order it will have very specific constraints which may or may not fit your specific configuration. However, once your order is submitted to and accepted by GM you have a reasobaly firm guarantee that the car will be built as ordered.
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Accepted by GM is status 2000. As the build gets closer to a factory schedule it progresses to 3000, 3300, etc. By the time you reach 3400 you have a solid guarantee -- as 3400 means that the necessary parts are available and earmarked for your car and a specific build schedule is in place. You may be a week or so away from completion at that point.
Until the dealer gets the order accepted by GM it's not an order as far as GM is concerned. Once it reaches 2000 it means GM intends to build it just as it was submitted, with the timing dependent on part supplies and other factors. Whether you get to 2000 depends on the dealer's allocation, your priority in his queue, and the constraints of the moment and how they relate to your configuration.
Until the dealer gets the order accepted by GM it's not an order as far as GM is concerned. Once it reaches 2000 it means GM intends to build it just as it was submitted, with the timing dependent on part supplies and other factors. Whether you get to 2000 depends on the dealer's allocation, your priority in his queue, and the constraints of the moment and how they relate to your configuration.
Last edited by CaryBob; Jan 4, 2015 at 09:47 PM.
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Racer
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My dealer only has one allocation. So, the allocation guarantees my dealer will get a Z06 he just may not be able to order it the way I want it? Should a constraint not go in my favor is there an option for the dealer to pass and wait longer for the constraints to be lifted? Again, sorry for the questions. Just trying to get smart on where my allocation stands and any options I may have. Thanks again for all the info and help, its greatly appreciated.
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My dealer only has one allocation. So, the allocation guarantees my dealer will get a Z06 he just may not be able to order it the way I want it? Should a constraint not go in my favor is there an option for the dealer to pass and wait longer for the constraints to be lifted? Again, sorry for the questions. Just trying to get smart on where my allocation stands and any options I may have. Thanks again for all the info and help, its greatly appreciated.
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Well if that is the case then GM can take their car and pound it. There is no way I am going to pay that much for a car and NOT get what I want. After being deployed all over the world, shot at and blown up to put myself in a position to have a vehicle like this I can't see settling just because GM wants to dictate what I can have. I'll buy a Viper!!!
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If you haven't given up, good luck on getting what you want built! What options are you looking at? They have a list of constrained items and that could give you a good idea if you are going to get what you want.
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Racer
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I ordered an A8 Aero lvl 2 with the black painted ground effects (either CFV or CFZ...whichever is painted). :-) It's a 2LZ non-Z07 with the paint matched roof. I think the CFV/CFZ may be the issue. My fingers are crossed. The dealer keeps telling me not to worry and it's just a matter of time but reading all the posts in the forum makes me wonder. I just need to stay off of here. LOL Thanks for all the inputs...it's greatly appreciated.
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I ordered an A8 Aero lvl 2 with the black painted ground effects (either CFV or CFZ...whichever is painted). :-) It's a 2LZ non-Z07 with the paint matched roof. I think the CFV/CFZ may be the issue. My fingers are crossed. The dealer keeps telling me not to worry and it's just a matter of time but reading all the posts in the forum makes me wonder. I just need to stay off of here. LOL Thanks for all the inputs...it's greatly appreciated.
This was the latest constraint report with Z06 builds-
RPO............Description.............. ..................Availability
Z51............Performance Package............................50%
C2Q............Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0%
C2Z............Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20%
C2M............Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent).20%
CFA............Standard roof (painted)........................40%
Z07............Z06 Performance package........................45%
CFV & Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects and Z07 Perf Pkg ..No constraint listed
CFZ - Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects minus Z07 Perf Pkg.25%
CFV............Carbon Fiber Ground Effects....................15%
M5U............8 Speed Auto Transimssion......................75%
Target Production Week of January 26, 2015 for non-Z06.
Target Production week of January 19, 2015 for Z06.
So it appears the stage II aero with CFZ (painted) is constrained to 25%.
this is an older report as the newer ones don't list Z06s being produced. I imagine an updated list will be out soon.
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Racer
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This was the latest constraint report with Z06 builds-
RPO............Description.............. ..................Availability
Z51............Performance Package............................50%
C2Q............Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0%
C2Z............Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20%
C2M............Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent).20%
CFA............Standard roof (painted)........................40%
Z07............Z06 Performance package........................45%
CFV & Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects and Z07 Perf Pkg ..No constraint listed
CFZ - Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects minus Z07 Perf Pkg.25%
CFV............Carbon Fiber Ground Effects....................15%
M5U............8 Speed Auto Transimssion......................75%
Target Production Week of January 26, 2015 for non-Z06.
Target Production week of January 19, 2015 for Z06.
So it appears the stage II aero with CFZ (painted) is constrained to 25%.
this is an older report as the newer ones don't list Z06s being produced. I imagine an updated list will be out soon.
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This was the latest constraint report with Z06 builds-
RPO............Description.............. ..................Availability
Z51............Performance Package............................50%
C2Q............Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0%
C2Z............Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20%
C2M............Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent).20%
CFA............Standard roof (painted)........................40%
Z07............Z06 Performance package........................45%
CFV & Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects and Z07 Perf Pkg ..No constraint listed
CFZ - Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects minus Z07 Perf Pkg.25%
CFV............Carbon Fiber Ground Effects....................15%
M5U............8 Speed Auto Transimssion......................75%
Target Production Week of January 26, 2015 for non-Z06.
Target Production week of January 19, 2015 for Z06.
So it appears the stage II aero with CFZ (painted) is constrained to 25%.
this is an older report as the newer ones don't list Z06s being produced. I imagine an updated list will be out soon.
Racer
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Can somebody help me to understand this constraint process and why it exists ? For example I believe the standard painted rooof has been on 40% constraint since the C7 came out. Why is this ? When an order is put in the system it is obvious that the customer wants a car with certain options. Why can't the order trigger the material control department to order the needed parts at that point ? Isn't that how it is supposed to work ? A painted roof should never be a constraint item and should be available 100% of the time. I have never seen a painted hood on constraint.
Car makers estimate take rates and make contracts with suppliers that are not always easily adjustable. Or some say the reason is there is much more profit to be had from the transparent top.
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