Why don't you actually read what I wrote? Just like most everyone else posting here, I'm not a dealer and I don't work for GM.

What I know _right now_ is that I can go walk in and get a car below MSRP. I also know _right now_ that there are hundreds of M7s sitting on lots... these are not pre-purchased vehicles.

I didn't say I didn't think it would sell... keep putting words in my mouth. I said for an astute shopper, you can get it under MSRP. Are you a dealer? If so, are you going to sit on inventory for months waiting to sell, while you pay interest? You won't be in business too long. The A8 will be a great seller, as it is in high demand. I specifically spoke of the M7.

I would agree that it is early in the season around most of the country, and I agree the cars will sell. However, I don't think you have to pay sticker now, and I can't see on an M7 there being a price increase later, when the 2016 MY is right around the corner (you would agree that Dec 14 roll-out is technically "late" in the MY, right?).

It's all opinion, and I'll stick to mine. Asking me to pay the difference if some buyer pays more is truly ridiculous... just like the people paying $110k for these now... ridiculous. "It seems only fair?" LOL

 

Thank you. Some people just pick fights for nothing.

And when they cannot actually comprehend what has been posted, that makes it even more absurd.

It is my _opinion_ there will be plenty of M7s on the lots in the summer, with the 2016MY approaching. And someone willing to not bend over for their dealer will be able to purchase well under MSRP...for an M7.

My real advice for racerzx9 is to go out right now and buy a car and pay $10k over sticker, since there are a few dealers demanding that... and he can be one of the few who pay that much over, and can brag about that. In the end, we all pay what we think is a fair price for goods/services. But in this case, since racerzx9 says this car performs as well as others costing $1M, then paying $110k is a great deal.

 

Exactly what a ridiculous post. So if he is right then how about you give him the amount he is able to get off MSRP? My money is that he is right. It is called an Opinion.

 

Exactly

 

Not going to happen. Those that wanted one first have got it now or it is ordered. That means there will be less of an issue in getting one. When I see speculation like this I often wonder if the poster is a dealer trying to entice the fence sitters to jump in right now because they are worried about an increase.

 

Dealers always talk about a price increase is coming, it's a technique used to get a close.

Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if an increase comes for the 2016 MY.

Also, the current situation where there are extra M7's out there is due to the constraints on Automatics. Depending how the market and production goes the supply could adjust. Right now because there have been extra M7's made (over the demand level) there are discounts available at some locations. Getting a discount on an A8 would be much more difficult. Most dealers have a waiting list that takes the A8 production deep into the 2016 model year. If there are no future constraints on Automatics the M7 supply will diminish and the discounts for them will dry up.

Lots of factors are involved though. Stingray sales will have an affect on how long it takes for Z06 production to meet the demand enough that we see A8's sitting on the floor. Once that happens you'll see some discounts on those as well.

 

wtf!!!!

 

Sorry guys, did not intend to get tempers flaring on this one! The dealer I spoke with who has two cars that I really like, Laguna blue and torch red, both 7 speeds of course with 2LZ and few options. MSRP is 85,155 for both. Would love to get the Z07 package but living in Michigan with our crappy roads just not worth it. Not going to be a track car, just enjoy it. No deals with him, straight sticker. I am old school, my 2012 Grand Sport was a 6 speed, still like to shift myself, so looks like I need to cool it and wait for spring time and see what is out there?

 

Just noticed the gas guzzler thing today, a week ago when I built the car it did not show the $1300?

 

I suspect the build and price site is wrong. GGT is determined before the vehicle can be sold and once it's assigned it's good for the entire model year. GM doesn't charge this, they simply collect it for the Feds.

I priced out the cars on the Employee site and it only adds GGT on the 8 speed configuration.

 

I was told that if the dealer has an "allocation" for you and you "place the order" and the dealer marks it as a "sold retail order" that you are "price protected". I have been told this by a person that is "in the know" at GM.

 

Sounds right, my local dealer who has told me that if its a sold order his rep told him I will get the car by April/May. Have bought lots of cars from him, so he better give me a deal on this new baby!

 

I don’t think you will find a "bunch" of M7's anywhere. Much less a "bunch" later in the model year. Keep in mind the reason there are so many M7's being produced is because until recently the A8 cars weren’t available at all. Rather than produce less cars GM went ahead and produced M7's. This was after it was well known that about 70% of folks wanted A8’s.

Some folks who were waiting on A8's switched to M7's and some held firm. Regardless some M7 allocations were freed up. Most dealers rather than lose an allocation ordered M7’s for stock. Hence you may see a few M7’s out in stock at a few dealers. The point is the delayed arrival of the A8 caused some jockeying of the allocation list. As did constraints on the convertible.

With the A8 availability, convertible availability, and the Z06 production being predicted to be less than 30% of total Corvette production, you have a recipe for strong sales throughout the year. Discounts will certainly come but it probably won’t be due to a surplus of Z06’s sitting around later in the year.

If you study what happened last year with the C7 you will see discounts did eventually come about. But they also included 2 or 3 price increases along the way. So yes some folks got discounts but most received them long after the price increases took effect. So did they really save anything? Some did some didn’t.

As with anything in life you have to move when the time is right for you. But at some point you gotta jump in. This is the first mass produced 600hp car with an open top, a convertible or an automatic transmission in the world for $100K. If you don’t think that will keep demand high you better think again.

 

I'd do some research. People are already buying for under MSRP now, just wait until the car has been out and cars are sitting on the lot (look at what happened to the stingrays, ZL1, and now the Z/28). It is a car that is being mass produced, prices will eventually come down. It isn't rocket science buddy.

 

They had a mid year increase on the c7 in March of 14. Only reason manuals are sitting it's cold in half of the USA and they produced more manuals than demand. Once they start pumping out A8 and weather gets nice supply will dry up. If you want a 2015 at a discount get them now once summer hits you will be waiting till the end of the year.

 

So several posts here have mentioned places that will sell under MSRP. Can anyone mention where they saw that? I have placed an order with a dealer local to Houston and they said they should get their next allocation this week. If there is a dealer that is under MSRP, I would like to have that piece of data.

I generally find that folks that subscribe to forums generally know much more than the sales guys at the dealers, so knowledge is power.

 

I think I agree with this. the Z06 is one hell of a great looker and performer... so much of a leap from previous designs. I think that as they get seen more by the general public... out there on the road... that the demand will outstrip supply.

 

I have talked to a handful of dealers that would order for under invoice. But I believe that is only useful if you time it when they know they have an allocation that week.

If you want a Z07 M7 coupe that is in stock, you can get not too far from invoice. ... at least with one dealer that has two of them.

 

There's no reason GM would charge a GGT for the M7 when they don't have to. They don't keep any of that money, so it's in their best interest to not have a GGT.

In fact, I think they made a mistake letting the A8 get a GGT. My guess is that they'll try to retest for the zero GGT bracket.

 

I didn't pay GGT on my M7