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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbjorgol
I don't think Chevrolet counted on these tires necessitating that they always be kept over 20 degrees. Even in TX it get's down to 5 to 10 degrees during the winter sometimes so the majority of people in who buy these in the US will require a second set of tires.

They make compromises on performance to give you power seats, air conditioning, etc, if they want a no compromises race car, go all out, skip those, and skip letting it be street legal but don't make a street car that can't be driven on the streets or stored in your garage. Make a summer tire OPTION that can withstand normal winter garage temps so that people don't have to find a cozy warm location for their tires during the winter.

I'll have to buy a second set of tires for 2 grand and try and find somewhere to store 4 tires all winter and I'll do it but I shouldn't have to. I should have been able to check a box and get a set of tires that don't necessitate that I buy a second pair and store the stock ones somewhere. They offer creature comfort options like power seats and I think usable tires is a fair ask for an option.

My guess is that Chevy isn't happy with this and that they either drop these tires next year or have an option. If they can't even ship them to you without cracks they are losing a ton of money and are probably more frustrated about it than any of us are.
I'm sure Chevy is frustrated about that. I wish the tires would stand the weather better but they don't. I would be happier if I didn't have to worry about the cold weather cracking the tires. I'm buying this car knowing this so I'll deal with it. If you're buying this car knowing this then accept it. If it's unacceptable then don't get it. For me it's that simple. I may not like it but the positives outweigh the negatives for me. I'm picking mine up tomorrow.
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by badhabit_wb
I'm sure Chevy is frustrated about that. I wish the tires would stand the weather better but they don't. I would be happier if I didn't have to worry about the cold weather cracking the tires. I'm buying this car knowing this so I'll deal with it. If you're buying this car knowing this then accept it. If it's unacceptable then don't get it. For me it's that simple. I may not like it but the positives outweigh the negatives for me. I'm picking mine up tomorrow.
Yah I'm still buying it and it's still a great bargain. Just annoyed.

Congrats!! I can't even imagine how excited I'll be the day before mine arrives. You going to be able to sleep tonight? (This is the closest thing I have to the feeling of waiting for Santa Claus now haha)
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbjorgol
Yah I'm still buying it and it's still a great bargain. Just annoyed.

Congrats!! I can't even imagine how excited I'll be the day before mine arrives. You going to be able to sleep tonight? (This is the closest thing I have to the feeling of waiting for Santa Claus now haha)
Lol. I couldn't sleep last night! i'm sure tonight won't be any better. It's just like waiting for Santa Claus. As excited as you think you'll be, trust me, the night before you will be even more excited. You won't even think about the tires. I was a lot more worried about them last month now I'm like a dog looking at a treat and salivating.
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by badhabit_wb
Lol. I couldn't sleep last night! i'm sure tonight won't be any better. It's just like waiting for Santa Claus. As excited as you think you'll be, trust me, the night before you will be even more excited. You won't even think about the tires. I was a lot more worried about them last month now I'm like a dog looking at a treat and salivating.
Hahaha I feel like I'm like that already. I'm so obsessed that it makes me a little crazy and I can't decide if this forum is helping or making things worse haha. Just ~45 days left! ... :/

Enjoy tomorrow and post some pictures! Let us live vicariously through you haha.
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbjorgol
Hahaha I feel like I'm like that already. I'm so obsessed that it makes me a little crazy and I can't decide if this forum is helping or making things worse haha. Just ~45 days left! ... :/

Enjoy tomorrow and post some pictures! Let us live vicariously through you haha.
Will do. 45 days will pass and you'll want it so bad by then that you want be able to stand it. Post some pics when you get it. Good luck with your new toy.
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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Are there any tires that will fit the stock Z06/Z07 wheels that will work better for everyday driving than the OE Michelins?
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by badhabit_wb
I think the z06-07 is for people that understand what they're buying. It's an ultra high performance vehicle with tires to match. The standard stingray has tires suitable for every day driving in all weather. That's not what this car is about. If you're not going to need the high performance tires you'd probably be better off with the base stingray and not the race prepared version. All tires make compromises, get a vehicle that matches your driving style. There is a price to be paid for pushing the performance envelope and these tires are part of that price. You can always buy different tires if you're just buying the car so you can say you have a z06.
I fully understand what I'm buying and why I'm buying it, and I'm not buying a zo6 just to say they bought a z06. Would the 2010 ZR1 be considered a performance car? It had tires that didn't crack. Would the 2010 Z06 be considered more of a performance car than the 2015 Z51? The tires didn't crack on the 2010 Z06, yet they crack on the Z51. The bottom line is, the tires is faulty, and it is not normal. My GS tires never cracked, My Porsche 911 Turbo S tires didn't crack. There is suck a thing as a performance summer tire that doesn't crack when it gets below 20
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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i have now seen it done, so i know it works.

Buy an extra set of front rims, put all season, or winter tires on all 4 of the
rims, and replace the rears with the fronts. Difference in rear diameter is
less than 2%.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lgodom
Are there any tires that will fit the stock Z06/Z07 wheels that will work better for everyday driving than the OE Michelins?
Looks through the threads on here. Several people are using the Pirelli's. I'd ask one of those guys what they think. Michelin will probably change the compound a bit with these tires or offer something in more of an all season tire but the Pirelli's, right now, are a better bet for winter driving. I think Michelin sacrificed too much reliability for a little extra traction with these tires but they're great for what they made them for.

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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by vdavenp802
If you read the disclaimer on the tire rack site. about the cup tires, which I understand come on all Z06's (not just the Z07 option), the tire has very limited use for those that live in cold and wet conditions.
You understand wrong. The non-Z07 comes with Pilot Super Sport tires. As mentioned in previous posts, as long as you're at 21F, you can drive them fine. Is there a loss of traction, handling, and braking? Sure, but a little caution and Weather driving mode will get you where you're going. How do I know? It was 21F when I pulled out of the Museum on delivery day, with 12" of snow on the ground, although the roads were plowed. I drove my new Z an hour and a half to my hotel in Nashville. The next day, we drove a couple hundred miles in slush and pouring rain in temps from 35-45 F. Again, Weather mode and some caution made it work. Would the car slide around in the slush if I used to much power? Well, yeah, but it will do that on dry pavement and warm weather too.

BTW - I've had a C3, C5, and a couple C6s, and every one of them sucked in cold weather on stock tires. I had snow tires on my '78 for winter driving. My C5 ended up on Michelin all-season ZP tires.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Hi, my name is Todd and I'm on crack..... ed tires. Yes, my tires are getting replaced because they came cracked. They are also not easy to swap out. My car has been at the dealer for a few days and they are having trouble getting the beads to seat just like many dealers across the country.

Even so, I would not trade these tires for others. You have to MOVE the car below 20 degrees, I don't think that's hard to prevent. These tires do what they were designed to do, handle great and grip when we drive the car (which is not in the winter). You'll be hard pressed to find a tire that can handle the power the Z06 puts out that is not a summer only tire. If you do happen to do some cornering in an Autocross or on the track, you'll see what these tires are all about. As for having an option from GM to put all season tires on the car, I don't see it. It's not like they last that long. Go ahead and put other tires on when they wear out. Just don't get upset when you can't hook up at anything below 70 mph.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:32 PM
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I fully understood the cold weather limits on the Michelin Sport Cup 2's. I had a similar experience with my 2012 Camaro ZL1. The OEM Goodyear super car tires were like marbles when it was cool.

I have just mounted a set of OEM 19/20 cup wheels shod with the Michelin Sport Cup 2's on my 2013 Grand Sport that is making 566 RWHP. I rarely track the car and so it sees crusin' on week ends.

I need one of you to lucky 2015 ZO6 pilots to tell me what tire pressures are shown on the door jam decal.

Thanks - Major Boyd
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:35 PM
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Lots of really good comments here. Thanks to everyone. After a day of cooling off a bit I can go forward. I still think the same however. There should have been a option to select tires just like the Z07 option.

I don't plan on 'all season' tires, just those not prone to cracking at 20 degrees. Also no semi slicks. I do intend to take the car to Elkhart Lake and do some instruction on the Road America track. Its not just for show, but for some stretching the driving experience. I just happen to prefer the look of the 'Z'. I am quite happy with my C6/400 hp. Its a fun ride. I have also gotten somewhat bored with it, power wise.
So onward and upward.

I do drive about 4500 miles per year and in the rain. Heavy at times. I know you can slow down. But in the end you're still not safe.

I fault myself for not doing a better job on the research side. For example on the option list include extra rims/tires. I questioned why, but let it drop. Now I see. MY BAD.

Again all this information has been very helpful.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GM TECH
I fully understood the cold weather limits on the Michelin Sport Cup 2's. I had a similar experience with my 2012 Camaro ZL1. The OEM Goodyear super car tires were like marbles when it was cool.

I have just mounted a set of OEM 19/20 cup wheels shod with the Michelin Sport Cup 2's on my 2013 Grand Sport that is making 566 RWHP. I rarely track the car and so it sees crusin' on week ends.

I need one of you to lucky 2015 ZO6 pilots to tell me what tire pressures are shown on the door jam decal.

Thanks - Major Boyd
30 front. 30 rear
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Originally Posted by Milzy
30 front. 30 rear
Thanks Milzy.
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There is a lot of inaccurate info in this thread. (The post from fdxpilot is 100% accurate to my knowledge.)

Here is a link discussing the Z51 tires...it applies to the Z06 as well. There are other more recent articles...but the message remains pretty much unchanged.

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Cold weather, and there has been a lot of it across the country recently, can affect a vehicle’s performance in many ways. A recent TechLink article [add link to http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=2801] covered how the different compounds of various winter, summer and all-season tires can result in varying degrees of tire noise.



In addition, the special tread and compounds used on high performance summer-only tires can cause a decrease in performance and reduced traction in cold climates with temperatures below approximately 40°F (5°C). GM recommends installing winter tires if driving below these temperatures.



Cold temperatures also may cause actual tire damage on some high performance summer-only tires if temperatures drop below 20°F (−7°C). GM recommends avoiding operating affected vehicles when equipped with high performance summer-only tires at these temperatures.



The following vehicles are all equipped with 3-season performance tires commonly referred to as summer tires.



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At colder temperatures, the rubber used in these tires loses flexibility and may develop surface cracks in the tire tread/shoulder area. (Fig. 8) Surface cracks are cosmetic and will not result in a loss of air. However, the cracking is damaging to the tire. Tires that have been used in cold climates and exhibit tread cracks should be discarded.

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