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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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I posted this in the C7 section and since found out that there is a Z06 section.
I would like to know if anyone else has this problem with their C7 Z06.
After it sits over night in the garage when I start it up it turns over 8 to 12 times before it starts. And when cold at idle it is running a little rough. If I sit in the car as it is warming up I can feel a miss. I know this isn't right because a friend has a 2015 Z06 8 spd auto just like mine and it does not do this. My dealer says it is OK and I know that it isn't. Anyone have any ideas?
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Originally Posted by dans15z06
I posted this in the C7 section and since found out that there is a Z06 section.
I would like to know if anyone else has this problem with their C7 Z06.
After it sits over night in the garage when I start it up it turns over 8 to 12 times before it starts. And when cold at idle it is running a little rough. If I sit in the car as it is warming up I can feel a miss. I know this isn't right because a friend has a 2015 Z06 8 spd auto just like mine and it does not do this. My dealer says it is OK and I know that it isn't. Anyone have any ideas?
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sounds normal to me
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dans15z06
I posted this in the C7 section and since found out that there is a Z06 section.
I would like to know if anyone else has this problem with their C7 Z06.
After it sits over night in the garage when I start it up it turns over 8 to 12 times before it starts. And when cold at idle it is running a little rough. If I sit in the car as it is warming up I can feel a miss. I know this isn't right because a friend has a 2015 Z06 8 spd auto just like mine and it does not do this. My dealer says it is OK and I know that it isn't. Anyone have any ideas?
Dan
I'm sure someone else much more knowledgeable will chime in with the specifics because this topic has been covered here before, but apparently it is quite normal. The fuel pressure in our engines is quite high and it can take some time to come up to pressure after the car has been sitting for a while.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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My new Z06 A8 also takes some cranks before engine catches. My guess would be that the fuel pump has to get some gas in the lines before it catches. Once its hits, the car starts right up.
My 2002 Z06 also took some time, unless I allowed the fuel pump to fill the lines before cranking. That was possible to do in the old days!
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:48 AM
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My new Z06 A8 also takes some cranks before engine catches. My guess would be that the fuel pump has to get some gas in the lines before it catches. Once its hits, the car starts right up.
My 2002 Z06 also took some time, unless I allowed the fuel pump to fill the lines before cranking. That was possible to do in the old days!
Is the fuel pump in the Z, electric ? Would just turning on the acc. mode start the fuel pump before starting ?
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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A friend has a 2015 Z06 and he says it starts up immediately after an overnight cool down.
Maybe he is just lucky. Anyway the dealer is going to look at it again next week. I will insist they check for codes.
Thanks for the input.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Mine does the exact thing I don't think anything is wrong based on your description
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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I had a similar problem on my 2004 Convertible. There was a O-ring in the fuel tank that was leaking pressure overnight, so the fuel pump had to build up the pressure for the engine to start.

Dealer found it by putting a pressure gauge on the car and left it overnight. Pressure in the morning was down to zero.

I think that they found out the specific source of the leak by a "smoke test" as I recall.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by mjpcowboy
Mine does the exact thing I don't think anything is wrong based on your description
I experience the same thing.
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Originally Posted by mjpcowboy
Mine does the exact thing I don't think anything is wrong based on your description
Have you noticed a minor rough idle when cold? You would not notice it driving only when sitting still at idle.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 10:02 AM
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Possibly the engine is designed to generate a minimum level of oil pressure while spinning on the starter before the engine is allowed to fire up.
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It's normal. These direct injection engines operate at VERY high fuel pressure, over 2,000 PSI. The pump in the tank only gets it to about 60 PSI, a mechanical pump run off the camshaft pressurizes it from there. This takes a little time.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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The OP also noted that his friend has the same car and it starts up immediately. So either his friends car is the oddball or a number of cars have an issue. It would be interesting to note how this shakes out.
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Originally Posted by 6Speeder
It's normal. These direct injection engines operate at VERY high fuel pressure, over 2,000 PSI. The pump in the tank only gets it to about 60 PSI, a mechanical pump run off the camshaft pressurizes it from there. This takes a little time.
Good to know. I also noticed that the Z's engine took a few more turns to start than in my C6. Didn't perceive it as a problem, but was curious about it.
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When I start my '37 Ford that has a 396 with blower, I always turn the key on first and let the fuel pump fill up the lines and pressurized before I hit the key the rest of the way to engage starter......makes sense....
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Same exact thing.
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Yes, it is perfectly fine. Our direct injection requires a very high fuel pressure and it takes a few seconds to build up to that and the slight miss is from the relatively cold range spark plugs that are required for the boost. It takes the plugs a moment as well because of the high pressure they have to survive under.
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Originally Posted by dans15z06
A friend has a 2015 Z06 and he says it starts up immediately after an overnight cool down.
Maybe he is just lucky. Anyway the dealer is going to look at it again next week. I will insist they check for codes.
Thanks for the input.
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Have you heard his Z start in the morning? Could be his definition of "immediately" is different from yours.

Hit the blue button and ask OnStar to give you any codes. They're very helpful. Hope nothing is in fact wrong with your Z and that you're having a great time with it otherwise.
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Mine takes longer than the C6 I just traded, but not so long a crank up that I am concerned.
I believe mine is normal but I can't say I've counted, but it is longer....
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