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Old 03-27-2015, 09:56 AM
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Default C&D: 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO, 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S

The new Z06 comes online to play with its friends.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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They seemed to like it.
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It's nuts to have a car that can be mentioned in the same conversation as a 911 turbo. To say nothing of totally stomping it. For half the price. God Bless America.

(The 911 turbo S was my ultimate dream car, until I bought a Z06... Stunning to see some Porsche guys on here coming over to the Chevy camp. I still would love a Porsche, I think they are beautiful, but could never afford one. All except the 918 would be a step down now.)
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Originally Posted by ChopperDan64
The new Z06 comes online to play with its friends.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
Nice review, thanks for posting. The Z06 is quite the deal.

I have a curiosity about the distribution of power to wheels over time in the AWD launch control cars as they run a 1/4 mile. How much power do the front wheels get at the start? How much are they getting at the finish? What does it look like in the middle? Has anyone seen a graph or article on it? Conventional wisdom is that rear traction is most important but I'm curious the details.
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Originally Posted by cossan512
It's nuts to have a car that can be mentioned in the same conversation as a 911 turbo. To say nothing of totally stomping it. For half the price. God Bless America.

(The 911 turbo S was my ultimate dream car, until I bought a Z06... Stunning to see some Porsche guys on here coming over to the Chevy camp. I still would love a Porsche, I think they are beautiful, but could never afford one. All except the 918 would be a step down now.)
I love the Z06 too, but I'm not sure I would say the Z06 stomped the 911. They gave it 18 points on price differential - and the 911 lost the comparo by 8. Soooo . . . it looks to me like the P car was the favorite if money is no object.

Just sayin . . . .
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Originally Posted by mebe
Nice review, thanks for posting. The Z06 is quite the deal.

I have a curiosity about the distribution of power to wheels over time in the AWD launch control cars as they run a 1/4 mile. How much power do the front wheels get at the start? How much are they getting at the finish? What does it look like in the middle? Has anyone seen a graph or article on it? Conventional wisdom is that rear traction is most important but I'm curious the details.
The electronics are constantly varying the front and rear distribution of torque thru' the diffs to ensure the least slip at any of the four wheels. It's why it's so difficult for a RWD car to beat an AWD car from a dig, all other things being equal.
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Well money not a concern I can see where the Porsche comes out on top, I mean twice the money and lets be honest, its a beast. The story there to me is how far ahead the ZO6 is on the Nismo for 50 grand less. Article mentioned the ZO6 will be at the next lightning lap, that will be interesting to see.

Thanks for the post,

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Originally Posted by thebishman
The electronics are constantly varying the front and rear distribution of torque thru' the diffs to ensure the least slip at any of the four wheels. It's why it's so difficult for a RWD car to beat an AWD car from a dig, all other things being equal.
Yes, the theory makes sense. I'm curious to see a specific example. For example a graph of the power to each of the wheels of a 911TT as it launches. It may be that each launch is a little different, but I bet they look pretty similar and I am kind of curious.

For example, in the first motion from standing, is it 25% to each wheel? I suppose only the manufacturers know. I can't find it on Google.
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I'll leave this one here:


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The Porsche is down right stunning. It has 100 less hp and is WAY faster.

talk about excellence in engineering......wow. Gotta give credit to Porsche engineers on this. Their overall architecture really works.

I WANT ONE!
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Yes, but GM USED to be able to build them just as good for half the money. Seems they are falling behind a little, IMHO.

That being said, I am willing to bet the next generation car is a big leap forward.

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Well money not a concern I can see where the Porsche comes out on top, I mean twice the money and lets be honest, its a beast. The story there to me is how far ahead the ZO6 is on the Nismo for 50 grand less. Article mentioned the ZO6 will be at the next lightning lap, that will be interesting to see.

Thanks for the post,

PC

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For the $ the Corvette Z06 is a big winner as C & D noted!

WINNER!!

Z06
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Originally Posted by DerStig
You'll leave one what? A turd? The late model 911s have morphed into a smoothed over bulbous blob that is somewhat suggestive of a fresh turd.
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Originally Posted by drmustang
You'll leave one what? A turd? The late model 911s have morphed into a smoothed over bulbous blob that is somewhat suggestive of a fresh turd.
Right.... Keep telling yourself that.
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any vid review of the 3?
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Originally Posted by drmustang
You'll leave one what? A turd? The late model 911s have morphed into a smoothed over bulbous blob that is somewhat suggestive of a fresh turd.
How can any car lover possibly make such a statement?
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"For the $$$" is nothing more than a moral victory. These are the same type of arguments the mustang people use to say the mustang is better than the vette.

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For the $ the Corvette Z06 is a big winner as C & D noted!

WINNER!!

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Originally Posted by titletaker
How can any car lover possibly make such a statement?
Because he is overdosed on GM kool-aid.
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Originally Posted by cossan512
It's nuts to have a car that can be mentioned in the same conversation as a 911 turbo. To say nothing of totally stomping it. For half the price. God Bless America.

(The 911 turbo S was my ultimate dream car, until I bought a Z06... Stunning to see some Porsche guys on here coming over to the Chevy camp. I still would love a Porsche, I think they are beautiful, but could never afford one. All except the 918 would be a step down now.)
Obviously you didn't read the article and obviously you missed this statement:
"The Turbo S is the best car here, but it costs as much as two Z06s. And it’s not twice as good."
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Originally Posted by WeaponsGradeTorque
"For the $$$" is nothing more than a moral victory. These are the same type of arguments the mustang people use to say the mustang is better than the vette.
Yep. Some of these people drink the kool aid straight out of the can/pack before it is mixed with water.
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