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Observation
Lots of banter, speculation and questioning going on about the 10:38 run earlier this week so here's a thought.
If you look at the C7 fast list it appears that after Snorman ran that 10:50 very early on only two guys have gone faster and only by just over a tenth with all stock equipment. Now look at the same list of stock with tires and the fastest all stock is only 6/100th's slower than with tires, both done by wfarmer.
Point being will this 10:38 run not be improved on because the car is a factory freak and Nasty can drive or will it be slightly or greatly improved on? My guess will be next to nil. Thoughts???
If you look at the C7 fast list it appears that after Snorman ran that 10:50 very early on only two guys have gone faster and only by just over a tenth with all stock equipment. Now look at the same list of stock with tires and the fastest all stock is only 6/100th's slower than with tires, both done by wfarmer.
Point being will this 10:38 run not be improved on because the car is a factory freak and Nasty can drive or will it be slightly or greatly improved on? My guess will be next to nil. Thoughts???
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Using that comparison this 10:38 with skinnies and DR's may not be beaten at all, by a few tenths would be amazing.
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Got it. I thought you were asking for "thoughts?" instead of trying to make a point you really didn't want discussed.
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I think there is room for improvement. You have the full tank of fuel (weight), you have the full aero (drag) and you have a new motor (power). Stars definitely not aligned IMHO. Now getting the weather right again might not happen until fall, but time shall tell
Even if it is the fastest, it is still impressive and I would be more than happy (especially if the haters would STFU already
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Even if it is the fastest, it is still impressive and I would be more than happy (especially if the haters would STFU already
).
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I think there is room for improvement. You have the full tank of fuel (weight), you have the full aero (drag) and you have a new motor (power). Stars definitely not aligned IMHO. Now getting the weather right again might not happen until fall, but time shall tell
Even if it is the fastest, it is still impressive and I would be more than happy (especially if the haters would STFU already).
Even if it is the fastest, it is still impressive and I would be more than happy (especially if the haters would STFU already
).
A question: Do you all think an oversized SC intercooler water tank filled with ice could still be considered "stock"? I would grant this much leeway. I would call it stock. For propaganda purposes, of course.
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I wouldn't call it stock at that point. But I wouldn't quite call that a bolt on either LOL. In my opinion if you are adding something else to the car, especially replacing a part then it is no longer stock.
Now if I did something like this and my local car hangout asks.. Why yes, its bone stock..
Now if I did something like this and my local car hangout asks.. Why yes, its bone stock..
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I think there is room for improvement. You have the full tank of fuel (weight), you have the full aero (drag) and you have a new motor (power). Stars definitely not aligned IMHO. Now getting the weather right again might not happen until fall, but time shall tell :thumbs
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Since OP runs various track events at Pocono and some other NE circuits he's obviously in the tri-state area and should bring his ZR1 to Atco to run BigNasty when BN returns on stock tires.
I know of a track rental at Atco on Monday, May 18th.
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I know of a track rental at Atco on Monday, May 18th.
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Being that he popped off a 1.51 I'd say yes. The burnout looked a little small but I don't know if Hoosiers need a whole lot of heat (apparently not on this run). Also the stall speed of the Z is interesting. I'm not sure but I think I read that loading the converter wasn't yielding optimum results in the Stingrays. Once a rental or two is done and our forum pros have some time with it, I think we can extrapolate what these cars will see if they aren't running in the incredible DA that the NE tracks are known for (during the rental)
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You guys like the drag racing, I like making turns. No times to report, just fun track days at Pocono and some other NE circuits.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
BTW...I am going to go out on a limb and say that I have FAR, FAR more track experience than you do. In fact, I think you're largely FOS.
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I'd go out on another limb and say I don't think he even has a ZR1!
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Funny how some have reached out to me and said not to get involved with (their words here) that candy A$$ whiner Snorman, now I see what they mean. As for seat time, well I don't know how that came up but if it makes you sleep better tonight okay, you have more than I do. 
You're right I sold it and am looking for a new car to replace it but know this, I have owned more hot rods than most short of Leno and Pratt.
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Lots of banter, speculation and questioning going on about the 10:38 run earlier this week so here's a thought.
If you look at the C7 fast list it appears that after Snorman ran that 10:50 very early on only two guys have gone faster and only by just over a tenth with all stock equipment. Now look at the same list of stock with tires and the fastest all stock is only 6/100th's slower than with tires, both done by wfarmer.
Point being will this 10:38 run not be improved on because the car is a factory freak and Nasty can drive or will it be slightly or greatly improved on? My guess will be next to nil. Thoughts???
If you look at the C7 fast list it appears that after Snorman ran that 10:50 very early on only two guys have gone faster and only by just over a tenth with all stock equipment. Now look at the same list of stock with tires and the fastest all stock is only 6/100th's slower than with tires, both done by wfarmer.
Point being will this 10:38 run not be improved on because the car is a factory freak and Nasty can drive or will it be slightly or greatly improved on? My guess will be next to nil. Thoughts???
Hater's are largely FOS, Some are ZR1 owners.
Even Z06 owners can be lumped with hater's
Z06 lover's and hater's can be mixed on the same list under certain condition's.
Even though your being exactly right is beside the point.
You broke Z06 section rules number 11. and 12.
#11 A member shall not question hero runs.
Do not question how car was or was not equipt.
Only the times from comparo's runs IE 10.26 can be questioned
Big Nasty's driving has little to nothing to do with it.
Being a smash and go "2" pedal does.
Slicks and skinnys.
Track prep, car prep, fuel prep, cold air and being one of the fastest track does.
#12 A forum member posting in the same subset forum shall not
boast prediction's less than .25 off the standing time.
Same thing in the C7 section over a year ago.
My thoughts why it will stand..(additional non stock mods are the honesty driven hard to spot or know. Some are unknown to some and hard to sort out so a grain of salt is always needed.)
The 1.5 60ft may have off set the weight of fuel. Less fuel may slow the 60ft.
Offsetting some what. That's a good very good run. Next time with less fuel maybe less track prep.
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Oh, it'll probably be improved upon, even if by a little. IMO, what is more interesting, will be watching it be improved upon by a lot with a few light upgrades, as folks start doing minimal bolt-on mods to their A8 C7Zs. I'm sure the crying will reach yet another new level at that point.
it may go faster.