b4i4getit

Believe it. Until customers start refusing delivery of their cars the factory will keep shipping questionable cars. I think this should be an "Ask Tadge" question. Why does the factory send out cars with bad quality control ?

bluestreak63

It's not that it's bad quality control, it's a mass produced vehicle which has acceptable limits on passing QC. Couple that with the fact that it's such a hot item right now, so it's all GM can do to crank these out. And while they have their acceptable limits on the QC, they are still QC'd by humans.

The OP has some decisions to make, but if a little orange peel and some extra seat material (which by the way, is the supplier, not GM) are the only issues with it, get them corrected and move on, or deny delivery and find another one or another manufacturer.

flynbya2

After hearing about this orange-peel issue for so many years I have thought about a potential solution, but yes it would involve more $$. I am not a painter so a professional may correct my thinking here. But, if color sanding and a thin clear coat could cause issues down the road, could not a person take the car to a paint shop just off the showroom floor and have it lightly scuffed and clear coated again to allow for more room for the wetsand process? If so, I don't think it would be all that expensive to do compared to a repaint, just a scuff, mask and shoot?(partial disassembly in some areas). I am not arguing whether or not one should have to do this on a new car, just a solution for those willing to perfect an otherwise very nice car? Any pros willing to comment on this?

OP,sorry about this, I would refuse it and shop for one to your liking.

pauldd

Well decided to send car back to selling dealer for full refund. Why would I buy an expensive car that depreciates the minute I get off the lot and then spend money trying to fix a bad car? Thanks for your advice. Will invest the cash so maybe can switch z07 to Callaway with brownstone interior for no more cash input.

Glenn Quagmire

That's exactly what I would've done. Because, I wouldn't be a proponent of paint correction. Ironically, I prefer a bit of OP over perfectly flat. It hides more of the imperfections attained through daily driving.

bluestreak63

Good luck...

But just so you know I don't think Callaway touches the paint job, so you have a good chance on orange peel again and this time, you will have already bought it if you send it to Callaway.

09Z06pj

My realistic expectation would be that the fit and finish on a new Z would far exceed that of a Volt and Camaro sitting next to it in the showroom, not the other way around.

rwheelz

I really need to stop reading these threads! I feel like I should hire a team of experts to inspect my car when it finally shows up!

SPEEDGT

good for you, no complaints on my z07 SG, however if more customers refused their unacceptable cars due to obvious flaws GM would definitely wake up, take their head out of the sand and correct the problem, just ask any business person and see what they would do if their product had a defect and were returned (fix it or see sales drop off)

jsmbluecar

Or maybe just realize some peoples expectations aren't realistic. The fact is that the vast majority of customers don't know or care about orange peel. Part of the reason the cars are cheap is they are mass produced.

Personally I think my car looks great.

b4i4getit

I see what you are saying. But maybe they need to realize that their most expensive Chevy should have the same acceptance limits as their Chevy Cruze. The hit or miss paint jobs really should not be happening at this price range.

FirehawkTA

Do we know that Chevy will even know? Chevy might be notified, or maybe the dealer will just sell it to someone else.

kennb44

Not if done professionally. Speaking as a bodyshop owner in the business for over 30 yrs . It can be done (obviously with care ).Just need to do your research for someone good in your area.

thebishman

I don't understand what the factory is doing. My SG paint is da,n near perfect and every panel had excellent fitment. How could they allow the OP's car to leave in such a state?

Even my Comp seats have a decent fit re: the leather; a little 'loose' perhaps but not bad at all.

Bish

DALE#3

Buyers keep accepting ORANGES for a finish....GM won't fix what sells...WAKE-UP it's business

blown383c4conv

Sorry to hear that. My paint and comp seats are perfect. I wouldn't want a color sanded new car, paint is too thin and you can burn through the edges super easy. I would grab a different Z.

RandomTask

Since this whole "oh noes! orange peel!" fiasco started, I began to pay attention to other manufacturers. Even F cars suffer the same level as my Z. The reason that your volt or camaro have better finishes is due to their panels; they're stamped steel. The vette has different materials of surfaces including CF. That and their panels actually have complex profiles and arent rounded off bricks. If you want that perfect paint from the factory, then are you willing to drop more coin? If you're willing to drop more coin, then why not take it to the after market?

In regards to OP, I urge you to check out some F cars and compare. Your seat situation however, is unacceptable.

lgodom

Glad to hear you were able to walk away rather than accepting a new car with a subpar paint job. This is my biggest fear about ordering one especially in black. You should be able to get into a new car and enjoy it without worrying about spending money or time money correcting problems. I was looking for orange peel problems in the C7s in March when I toured the factory. The one black C7 I saw actually looked surprisingly good even in fluorescent lighting, so it is possible to get a good paint job.

GP1224

Well if the dealer made it easy to take back then thats even better. Just dont get too discouraged being anyone you talk with that does paint correction will tell you that the likes of Mercedes, Porsche ect can show up with orange peel as well. Plus interior issues happens also. I think actually seeing a Z06 that meets your needs option wise is the better way to go. Always nice to see the car before you buy it.

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