Porting manifolds/cat pipe project
#1
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Porting manifolds/cat pipe project
With my car blowing up and all the warranty talk I have decided to take on a project and give all my feedback here. Seeing headers/non catted x pipe on local c7 z06s give 15 to 20 hp at wheels without tuning and add underhood Temps plus void warranty I want to try something different out and give the community results.
Talking to the dealer about warranty issues they said that as long as cats are not taken out ot moved from oem location I will keep the warranty.
So I shot out a set of stock z06 manifolds to get ported and I will be opening up the inlets on the oem cat pipes. Oem cat pipes most of the restriction is on the inlet. I will port match the inlet to the exhaust gasket and I just need to see if I can modify the pipe going into the cats to get smoother flow.
I will also ceramic coat the oem set up to keep underhood Temps down and will match the corsa coated x pipe I have.
I will do a baseline pull then change the items and do another pull. Then to finish it off install the corsa x pipe and do another pull.
I feel that a ported oem exhaust manifold/cat pipes/corsa mid pipe will be close to what long tube headers give (no tune)without voiding warranty, also the cost should be $1000 to $1200 less than buying aftermarket headers.
I will keep everyone updated.
I attached the inlet of oem cat pipes. You can clearly see you can open up the inlet and also if it works get rid of that flat spot and make it a tapered pipe setup to bthe cats. I just need to see if that can be done when I get car on lift
Talking to the dealer about warranty issues they said that as long as cats are not taken out ot moved from oem location I will keep the warranty.
So I shot out a set of stock z06 manifolds to get ported and I will be opening up the inlets on the oem cat pipes. Oem cat pipes most of the restriction is on the inlet. I will port match the inlet to the exhaust gasket and I just need to see if I can modify the pipe going into the cats to get smoother flow.
I will also ceramic coat the oem set up to keep underhood Temps down and will match the corsa coated x pipe I have.
I will do a baseline pull then change the items and do another pull. Then to finish it off install the corsa x pipe and do another pull.
I feel that a ported oem exhaust manifold/cat pipes/corsa mid pipe will be close to what long tube headers give (no tune)without voiding warranty, also the cost should be $1000 to $1200 less than buying aftermarket headers.
I will keep everyone updated.
I attached the inlet of oem cat pipes. You can clearly see you can open up the inlet and also if it works get rid of that flat spot and make it a tapered pipe setup to bthe cats. I just need to see if that can be done when I get car on lift
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What I'm looking at is cost for hp gained. I deal with arh for C7s a lot. Done many setups.
For lets say 2 inch headers non catted 2k and with no tune get 20hp vs porting stock manifolds $500 and modding cat pipes 15hp I think that's a good bang for buck combo then add in corsa x pipe prob gain 2 or 3hp it will make it even closer and you still have your warranty. . Corsa x pipe 450 on ebay with porting manifolds looking prob around $1k
This will all be a test and just give me some time and at the same time I'm not saying going with headers is a waste because people who don't care about tuning and voiding warranty will make more power I'm just trying a different route and since I do a lot of testing on the street and I'd love to open hood and say it's a bone stock z06 lol
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; 07-13-2015 at 03:07 PM.
#6
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Yes my dealer didn't have issues with that since it won't set off any engine codes. If you remove cats in front it sets off codes and will void it.
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If it makes power and is cheap im in. Maybe even get a diablo ghost tune at that point. Would like to see how that turns out with dealers. yes I said it but that's a whole different topic so please don't bring that here
Last edited by jdmdohcpower; 07-13-2015 at 03:32 PM.
#8
Team Owner
Long tubes wuth no tune make 20 at wheels. The tune is what picks up more and voids warranty. Same goes for oem setup. You can tune it to get more power but voids warranty.
What I'm looking at is cost for hp gained. I deal with arh for C7s a lot. Done many setups.
For lets say 2 inch headers non catted 2k and with no tune get 20hp vs porting stock manifolds $500 and modding cat pipes 15hp I think that's a good bang for buck combo then add in corsa x pipe prob gain 2 or 3hp it will make it even closer and you still have your warranty. . Corsa x pipe 450 on ebay with porting manifolds looking prob around $1k
This will all be a test and just give me some time and at the same time I'm not saying going with headers is a waste because people who don't care about tuning and voiding warranty will make more power I'm just trying a different route and since I do a lot of testing on the street and I'd love to open hood and say it's a bone stock z06 lol
What I'm looking at is cost for hp gained. I deal with arh for C7s a lot. Done many setups.
For lets say 2 inch headers non catted 2k and with no tune get 20hp vs porting stock manifolds $500 and modding cat pipes 15hp I think that's a good bang for buck combo then add in corsa x pipe prob gain 2 or 3hp it will make it even closer and you still have your warranty. . Corsa x pipe 450 on ebay with porting manifolds looking prob around $1k
This will all be a test and just give me some time and at the same time I'm not saying going with headers is a waste because people who don't care about tuning and voiding warranty will make more power I'm just trying a different route and since I do a lot of testing on the street and I'd love to open hood and say it's a bone stock z06 lol
to gain much. Then your not bone stock, Just like if you port the manifolds it's not really either.
The Halltech box is an easy mod and no tuning an the car does everything better. Then if you do port you'll get more out of it.
But none of is still bone stock.
#9
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I think you need you get rid of the 289 cfm stock air intake box and filter
to gain much. Then your not bone stock, Just like if you port the manifolds it's not really either.
The Halltech box is an easy mod and no tuning an the car does everything better. Then if you do port you'll get more out of it.
But none of is still bone stock.
to gain much. Then your not bone stock, Just like if you port the manifolds it's not really either.
The Halltech box is an easy mod and no tuning an the car does everything better. Then if you do port you'll get more out of it.
But none of is still bone stock.
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; 07-13-2015 at 04:52 PM.
#10
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Exhaust manifolds are done being ported I should have them here next week. The z06 manifolds are about 4 pounds heavier then the c7 cast iron manifolds. So if someone wants to save 8 pounds they can put c7 msnifolds on.
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; 07-16-2015 at 02:05 PM.
#12
Le Mans Master
Are you going to be able to port the whole length of the exhaust pipe runner, or just match up inlets and exits?
There is a process for doing the inside of the factory header runners that some guys use for trying to set class records called extrude-a- hone or other similar names
I pulled these guys just to share a link and have no idea as to their work quality
http://boneheadperformance.com/extrude-honing/
I will say when I looked into doing this years ago I did not think it was worth the money for the small gain in power
Porting intake systems is another matter and IMO results in a better bang for the buck
There is a process for doing the inside of the factory header runners that some guys use for trying to set class records called extrude-a- hone or other similar names
I pulled these guys just to share a link and have no idea as to their work quality
http://boneheadperformance.com/extrude-honing/
I will say when I looked into doing this years ago I did not think it was worth the money for the small gain in power
Porting intake systems is another matter and IMO results in a better bang for the buck
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Race Director
#15
Le Mans Master
Are you going to be able to port the whole length of the exhaust pipe runner, or just match up inlets and exits?
There is a process for doing the inside of the factory header runners that some guys use for trying to set class records called extrude-a- hone or other similar names
I pulled these guys just to share a link and have no idea as to their work quality
http://boneheadperformance.com/extrude-honing/
I will say when I looked into doing this years ago I did not think it was worth the money for the small gain in power
Porting intake systems is another matter and IMO results in a better bang for the buck
There is a process for doing the inside of the factory header runners that some guys use for trying to set class records called extrude-a- hone or other similar names
I pulled these guys just to share a link and have no idea as to their work quality
http://boneheadperformance.com/extrude-honing/
I will say when I looked into doing this years ago I did not think it was worth the money for the small gain in power
Porting intake systems is another matter and IMO results in a better bang for the buck
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#18
Le Mans Master
Right!
I remember a while back (maybe even in the 80s) someone doing a space age coating in a 240MPH Porsche turbo rally street car all the way through. The believe the driver died, but, the coating did its job well. Much of the heat went right out of the tailpipe!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 07-17-2015 at 07:03 PM.
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Those CAI's caused lean issues observable on their dyno's AFR's. It is probably really stupid here though, since, this has nothing to do with the MAFS. So just asking and good MOD!
I remember a while back (maybe even in the 80s) someone doing a space age coating in a 240MPH Porsche turbo rally street car all the way through. The believe the driver died, but, the coating did its job well. Much of the heat went right out of the tailpipe!
I remember a while back (maybe even in the 80s) someone doing a space age coating in a 240MPH Porsche turbo rally street car all the way through. The believe the driver died, but, the coating did its job well. Much of the heat went right out of the tailpipe!
dark blue line ported on each runner
light blue oem
almost 50 cfm on runner 3