Catch can install issue
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1. Put brake cleaner on rag and clean hole
2. Put thin line of rtv sealant on hole
3. Put fat bead of sealant on plug
4. Tap in place with punch
5. Let dry for 24 hours
6. Put blower cover on
7. Proceed to nearest stop light to get whopped on by a a8 z06...off a dig or roll
Lol
Oh your not using the rx catch can are you?
2. Put thin line of rtv sealant on hole
3. Put fat bead of sealant on plug
4. Tap in place with punch
5. Let dry for 24 hours
6. Put blower cover on
7. Proceed to nearest stop light to get whopped on by a a8 z06...off a dig or roll
Lol
Oh your not using the rx catch can are you?
Last edited by NORCAL-SS; Aug 26, 2015 at 09:57 PM.
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I read on another thread here that you can also take the throttle body off to get to that tube even with big hands. From my experience with proper surface prep the "Right Stuff" is the best rtv on the market, it seals like no other and withstands heat with stronger holding ability.
PS: Give the rtv plenty of time to cure before using.
PS: Give the rtv plenty of time to cure before using.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; Aug 26, 2015 at 11:45 PM.
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Are you sure your whistle is the plug leaking?
I do agree the 'Right Stuff' from Permatex is the right product to use here. Much harder and better bonding than RTV.
You say you used JB Weld on the plug. I don't know how well that would bond to the delrin.
I do agree the 'Right Stuff' from Permatex is the right product to use here. Much harder and better bonding than RTV.
You say you used JB Weld on the plug. I don't know how well that would bond to the delrin.
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Look carefully at all hoses to make sure none are kinked restricting flow, and also make sure the passenger side barb where the OEM line that did run the the drivers side valve cover was not capped and is "T"'d into one of the hard lines that enter the passenger side valve cover.
This is the line you do NOT cap, must be T'd into other hard line going into passenger side valve cover.
Try and post detailed pictures of your install. What you will catch will be more than oil, it will be a combination of oil/water/fuel/etc. so this is what would have been ingested during that time. All engines will have different rates of blow-by depending on how well the rings were seated in that critical first few hundred miles. If driven easy as the owners manual directs then odds are you will have more blow-by and catch more than the person that follows the correct instructions shown here:
This is the line you do NOT cap, must be T'd into other hard line going into passenger side valve cover.
Try and post detailed pictures of your install. What you will catch will be more than oil, it will be a combination of oil/water/fuel/etc. so this is what would have been ingested during that time. All engines will have different rates of blow-by depending on how well the rings were seated in that critical first few hundred miles. If driven easy as the owners manual directs then odds are you will have more blow-by and catch more than the person that follows the correct instructions shown here:
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Look carefully at all hoses to make sure none are kinked restricting flow, and also make sure the passenger side barb where the OEM line that did run the the drivers side valve cover was not capped and is "T"'d into one of the hard lines that enter the passenger side valve cover.
This is the line you do NOT cap, must be T'd into other hard line going into passenger side valve cover.
Try and post detailed pictures of your install. What you will catch will be more than oil, it will be a combination of oil/water/fuel/etc. so this is what would have been ingested during that time. All engines will have different rates of blow-by depending on how well the rings were seated in that critical first few hundred miles. If driven easy as the owners manual directs then odds are you will have more blow-by and catch more than the person that follows the correct instructions shown here:
This is the line you do NOT cap, must be T'd into other hard line going into passenger side valve cover.
Try and post detailed pictures of your install. What you will catch will be more than oil, it will be a combination of oil/water/fuel/etc. so this is what would have been ingested during that time. All engines will have different rates of blow-by depending on how well the rings were seated in that critical first few hundred miles. If driven easy as the owners manual directs then odds are you will have more blow-by and catch more than the person that follows the correct instructions shown here:
Pretty sure my lines are right.
Questions!
Why cut the line from the driver cover anyway? It doesn't allow oil to the intake and is no issue.
Then my can grabbed 2-3 oz of oil in 100 miles but just good oil not condensation
or any crud. Can will fill too quick at this rate. When the line uncut went to the GM catch can?
Car seemed to surge a little and not drive as well.
Does the plugging of the PCV behind the throttle body allow enough vacuum from the remaining valves be enough?
Right side line off the can goes to halltech intake. The left side is teed ( u hose hard to see but it hooks back) to the brake booster line to the intake.
The can inlet (top) from the valve cover. I hope the @#$% it's right!
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Aug 27, 2015 at 03:02 PM.
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Pretty sure my lines are right.
Questions!
Why cut the line from the driver cover anyway? It doesn't allow oil to the intake and is no issue.
Then my can grabbed 2-3 oz of oil in 100 miles but just good oil not condensation
or any crud. Can will fill too quick at this rate. When the line uncut went to the GM catch can?
Car seemed to surge a little and not drive as well.
Does the plugging of the PCV behind the throttle body allow enough vacuum from the remaining valves be enough?
Questions!
Why cut the line from the driver cover anyway? It doesn't allow oil to the intake and is no issue.
Then my can grabbed 2-3 oz of oil in 100 miles but just good oil not condensation
or any crud. Can will fill too quick at this rate. When the line uncut went to the GM catch can?
Car seemed to surge a little and not drive as well.
Does the plugging of the PCV behind the throttle body allow enough vacuum from the remaining valves be enough?
Last edited by jcthorne; Aug 27, 2015 at 01:36 PM.
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SWEET! With this system there is oil coming by the catch can into
intake from the power brake booster line I tee'd in to.
Oil is back in the intake just as much.
My hole is sealed.
Catch mod needs work at this point not ready for the public in my eyes.
I think it is going back to factory with the intake. If the oiling is an issue stock then I'm selling out I'm buying a new brand.
85,000 dollar car and needs a catch can for oiling? REALLY is BS. NONE of my other blown Ls engines had any issue
My z51 had issues my opinion of GM engines is low at this point.
I may go buy a McLaren or other exotic and call it good.
intake from the power brake booster line I tee'd in to.
Oil is back in the intake just as much.
My hole is sealed.
Catch mod needs work at this point not ready for the public in my eyes.
I think it is going back to factory with the intake. If the oiling is an issue stock then I'm selling out I'm buying a new brand.
85,000 dollar car and needs a catch can for oiling? REALLY is BS. NONE of my other blown Ls engines had any issue
My z51 had issues my opinion of GM engines is low at this point.
I may go buy a McLaren or other exotic and call it good.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Aug 27, 2015 at 01:51 PM.
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Did you even read what I posted above? It appears your passenger side is not connected correctly.
Folks are trying to help you. The system as designed works fine.
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Are those pics of your install above? The line from the cyclonic separator is tied in to the fresh air inlet line from the air intake. It does not go there. It was supposed to connect to the passenger side valve cover. Your pic on the driver side is too dark and blurry to see where the hoses are routed but the vacum line from the port after the throttle (where the brake booster ties in) does not look right.
Then the other side I used the little u hose off an LT engine throttle body from my parts box. the lines are right.
I can take another the photo is not good but the can has two draw lines one from intake shown and the other is teed to the power brake booster vac line. It a u shaped hose so it's hard to see. But it hooks back and connects.
I reused the factory connect on the drivers side cover because the one provided the hose connect split apart.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Aug 27, 2015 at 02:03 PM.
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3 Z06ZR1, just a constructive suggestion.
I would move the catch can as far forward as practical away from engine heat to improve it's condensing of vapors, etc. so they are not returned to the engine.
I would move the catch can as far forward as practical away from engine heat to improve it's condensing of vapors, etc. so they are not returned to the engine.
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I see what you mean. The oil coming from the valve cover looks pretty clean no water in it.
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Did you see that it is tied correctly? I need all the info and help I can get.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Aug 27, 2015 at 02:41 PM.
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If it really is connected correctly and the oil is effectively flowing from your driver side valve cover through the can in into the throttle body, your can is just not working. Are the internals in it? I am not familiar with the insides of an Elite. I have an Rx.
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Sorry, just frustrated and trying to help. I still cannot see it in your pics but will have to take your word for it.
If it really is connected correctly and the oil is effectively flowing from your driver side valve cover through the can in into the throttle body, your can is just not working. Are the internals in it? I am not familiar with the insides of an Elite. I have an Rx.
If it really is connected correctly and the oil is effectively flowing from your driver side valve cover through the can in into the throttle body, your can is just not working. Are the internals in it? I am not familiar with the insides of an Elite. I have an Rx.
I went the dealer and got a free oil change yesterday. Hoping they would not hear my whistle. They took longer and said Oh you have problem with your PVC and we ordered the parts for you.
Call you when they get in
