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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Side view image~ beauty.


Not so sure about the rear.

I spritzed also but usually keep that to myself.


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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:17 PM
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Speculation sure. But speculation can be fun. Any price speculation? I'd like to have an idea what they will be competing with. Ford GT maybe?
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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Looks great, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the boxy (downright ugly) previous renders. My guess if produced $200K+
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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Looks great but wishful thinking for the final version to look close to that.
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance
I have a question. If the current Corvette has a 50% weight distribution front and rear what really do you gain by a mid-engine car? I know the transmission tunnel but this is just space in the front for more space given up in other areas. To me what would be a much more significant improvement would be all wheel drive. Or additional electric motors to achieve all wheel drive.
I think you kind of answered your own question to why! I think they'll use electric for AWD launching basically and you need to put those batteries somewhere so itd make much more sense for them to be in the empty area up front on this layout. Pair that with a 650+ V8 and you'd get supercar!
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tbrenny33
I think you kind of answered your own question to why! I think they'll use electric for AWD launching basically and you need to put those batteries somewhere so itd make much more sense for them to be in the empty area up front on this layout. Pair that with a 650+ V8 and you'd get supercar!
Yes, I did answer my own question but I was looking for feed back because maybe I'm not right
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Ok, I wonder the same thing, what would you guys like to see IF they build this style car? V8 na or boosted? Electric driving front wheels? DCT? I'm sure much more of the body of not all would be carbon to bring weight down
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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IMO AWD would ruin the corvette it would just be like any other car like the GT-Rs etc..of the world but that's just my "Opinion" guys.
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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The great thing about a (rear)mid-engine car is the lower polar moment of inertia (you can turn faster).

The bad thing about a (rear)mid-engine car is the lower polar moment of inertia (you can spin it way easier).

Yeah, I've heard that before. Still makes me smile/chuckle when I see it, tho. It's a pretty good point - particularly for amateur pilots.


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So you're saying that more than 50% of the weight in the drive wheels is preferred? Sounds reasonable except for the under steer that might cause.
The 488, for example has 41.5% Front – 58.5% Rear weight distribution. The Mac 650 has (F/R) 42%/58%.

And as jvp points out there are two sides to the handling equation.

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Originally Posted by LT=LegendaryTorque26
IMO AWD would ruin the corvette it would just be like any other car like the GT-Rs etc..of the world but that's just my "Opinion" guys.
I tend to agree. Now couldn't they use batteries to drive the front just for acceleration and then when it's on the track or above a certain speed it would be disabled so it would have mostly RWD characteristics? That way it would run crazy like 2.5 0-60 but keep the other things so many people love about it on the track.
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tbrenny33
I tend to agree. Now couldn't they use batteries to drive the front just for acceleration and then when it's on the track or above a certain speed it would be disabled so it would have mostly RWD characteristics? That way it would run crazy like 2.5 0-60 but keep the other things so many people love about it on the track.
Yeah I think that could work but with those batteries and electric motors we could have a Corvette pushing 3900-4000lbs maybe put just two electric motors on the rear wheels for instant torque combined with the engine OMG!!
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LT=LegendaryTorque26
IMO AWD would ruin the corvette it would just be like any other car like the GT-Rs etc..of the world but that's just my "Opinion" guys.
That's kind of like saying no new innovation because then it wouldn't be old school Corvette. Just like any other successful product it must evolve or die. Corvette is Chevrolet's' leading product in automotive evolution and if AWD is better (overall) then the Corvette should go there. However, maybe it's not better overall because of other factors, like mpg, weight, etc. . That being said the jury is not yet through deliberating
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LT=LegendaryTorque26
Yeah I think that could work but with those batteries and electric motors we could have a Corvette pushing 3900-4000lbs maybe put just two electric motors on the rear wheels for instant torque combined with the engine OMG!!
If you did them to the rear wheels I think traction would still be an issue though. Or do you mean putting them on the back for the front wheels? 2 lithium batteries wouldn't add too much weight but going to the front wheels would give you much better traction. If they could keep weight around 3400-3600 with the additional power I think that would be pretty good
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tbrenny33
If you did them to the rear wheels I think traction would still be an issue though. Or do you mean putting them on the back for the front wheels? 2 lithium batteries wouldn't add too much weight but going to the front wheels would give you much better traction. If they could keep weight around 3400-3600 with the additional power I think that would be pretty good
Yeah something more like the McLaren P1 with the Lt4 & electric motors to hit the rear wheels all at one time LOL it would probably have alot of people in the ditch at some point.
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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I remember seeing this in a Motor Trend issue about a year ago. By far the best rendering of a mid engine Vette. It's also the most realistic considering that ot takes styling from the Daytona Prototype (which will probably be some kind basis for a mid engine Corvette).
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 06:23 PM
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The big thing GM revealed at Detroit was an all electric compact vehicle, not a mid engine supercar. What happened vs. day dreaming.

Even if this was in the making, once GM saw the new Ford GT they should have noticed this sketch drawing is behind times. The Ford GT's aero is a full 2 generations ahead of this.

GM should instead build a nanocomposite FMR chassis for the C8. Put the R&D money where it will yield the most improvement. GM should figure out how to make 650HP out of the small block naturally aspirated to reduce the weight of the nose, not move the engine.

OH, and while we're at it. Forget about mid engine until they figure out a way to cool the automatic transmission without running cooling lines and a radiator all the way up front for the second cooler.

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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by four0nefive
I remember seeing this in a Motor Trend issue about a year ago. By far the best rendering of a mid engine Vette. It's also the most realistic considering that ot takes styling from the Daytona Prototype (which will probably be some kind basis for a mid engine Corvette).
I wouldn't look for hints at a future Corvette in a series where rules play a big part in what your tube chassis car looks like (that's why the cars look so similar). I believe the cars still use LS engines as well so they can't even be looked as mules for future drivetrain options.
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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I like the look and all - but Corvette has always been a functional daily driver, meaning trunk space for long trips and relatively easy to drive around town. This would change things completely and raise the price drastically as well. While I really like the design... I hope it's not the standard C8, or even Z06 for that matter. There's plenty of other supercars out there to fill that role. I still want a daily driver with plenty of trunk space and relative comfort at a manageable price.
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