MT Z06-Viper-Porsche GT3 RS report
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MT Z06-Viper-Porsche GT3 RS report
Read it/see it here: http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...he-911-gt3-rs/. The results have appeared on the forum before, but there is some interesting input from the testers that I don't think we have seen before. I wonder if the Z06 loose rear end issue would have been less if Randy had tried a different PTM setting.
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Scraping the splitter.
One of the most interesting comments is that they don't think the RS is as good as the "regular" GT3. Strange indeed considering the RS is a GT3 turned up to 11.
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Read it/see it here: http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...he-911-gt3-rs/. The results have appeared on the forum before, but there is some interesting input from the testers that I don't think we have seen before. I wonder if the Z06 loose rear end issue would have been less if Randy had tried a different PTM setting.
They state the track was green and they insinuate that the Vette's runs were on a damp track as it "began to drizzle". Then they penalized it for being squirrely.
They used the Vettes squirrely handling to justify the slower Porsche's higher second place finish. This might make sense.....except the Porsche was the only car of the 3 that was looped at least 3 times and was damaged (beyond repair rumor has it) because someone (likely a professional driver) lost control of it. Guess it wasn't convenient to write that in the article.
To funny!
Last edited by dar02081961; 01-25-2016 at 12:04 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Thanks for the article...It looks like all the cars had more in them...Although the lap-times were nice, I think they all could've gone at least .5s faster...not sure Randy woulda gotten into the 28s range in the Viper without factory/perfect conditions, but I'm sure he woulda gotten mid 29's or better...and I think the Z06 is capable of mid to low 1:32's...Overall, an impressive group of cars. Really curious about those Kumho's, hard to imagine a tire 'alot' better than the Cup 2's. Overall nice article.
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Melting Slicks
I take the results with a grain of salt.
They state the track was green and they insinuate that the Vette's runs were on a damp track as it "began to drizzle". Then they penalized it for being squirrely.
They used the Vettes squirrely handling to justify the slower Porsche's higher second place finish. This might make sense.....except the Porsche was the only car of the 3 that was looped at least 3 times and was damaged (beyond repair rumor has it) because someone (likely a professional driver) lost control of it. Guess it wasn't convenient to write that in the article.
To funny!
They state the track was green and they insinuate that the Vette's runs were on a damp track as it "began to drizzle". Then they penalized it for being squirrely.
They used the Vettes squirrely handling to justify the slower Porsche's higher second place finish. This might make sense.....except the Porsche was the only car of the 3 that was looped at least 3 times and was damaged (beyond repair rumor has it) because someone (likely a professional driver) lost control of it. Guess it wasn't convenient to write that in the article.
To funny!
Last edited by TARANTULA; 01-25-2016 at 01:01 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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those gt3's are a danm good looking beetles.
don't get too hurt guys the viper has a mega wing and actual race car type areo. on a track like laguna with 3 very fast corners that aero is going to help quite a bit.
don't get too hurt guys the viper has a mega wing and actual race car type areo. on a track like laguna with 3 very fast corners that aero is going to help quite a bit.
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That is a "credible" article, with results as you would expect. They are honest about the Viper's ergonomics (no one can drive home on a race track or the groceery store) which matters. The Porsche is always a performer but interesting the RS appears not to be an improvement. While I truly enjoy my Z06, it does take a bit of work to handle at the limit as very few here probably know. Best
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MT are idiots. Comparing a car that ran @ damp track to another car that ran @ much much better conditions. I wonder why people keep their subscriptions...
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Melting Slicks
Considering MT has done track sessions with the Z06 (during the Nismo vs. Z07 test), they know that taking a cool down lap helps. I think the times would towards the end of the session become fairly close. The Kumhos apparently aren't great for lasting very long and once the Sport Cup 2s get warm (tires on both the GT3 RS and Z07), they don't grip well.
While I somewhat agree, the GT3 RS has a better aero set up that creates downforce, but not as much drag. It also has a PDK vs. the TR6070 in the Z. 140 and 138 definitely isn't bad though considering the 918 and P1 will do about 150, and both of those cars make over 800 horsepower.
I won't say they're "idiots" as they are credible and ran a same day test between all three cars. I will say however, why didn't they get help from the techs (from Porsche and Chevy) if they felt the cars weren't set up right? I'm pretty sure Jim Mero was there and I'm confident Porsche sent a team as well.
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While I somewhat agree, the GT3 RS has a better aero set up that creates downforce, but not as much drag. It also has a PDK vs. the TR6070 in the Z. 140 and 138 definitely isn't bad though considering the 918 and P1 will do about 150, and both of those cars make over 800 horsepower.
P1 and 918 did 155 mph and 153 mph back in March. No question that the PDK works its magic to stay close to the Z in the Straights. Also the GT3 much shorter gearing enhances acceleration despite having just 338 lb-ft of torque.
The GT3 RS also beats the Turbo S easily.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/compa...t3-rs-kiinote/
P1 and 918 did 155 mph and 153 mph back in March. No question that the PDK works its magic to stay close to the Z in the Straights. Also the GT3 much shorter gearing enhances acceleration despite having just 338 lb-ft of torque.
The GT3 RS also beats the Turbo S easily.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/compa...t3-rs-kiinote/
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I must have missed the part about the RS being totaled would you care to point it out to me?
This is supposedly the GT3RS used by MT.....
http://rennlist.com/articles/did-a-m...-past-weekend/
Latest word is the GT3RS is really FUBARED and is or should be totaled.
This is supposedly the GT3RS used by MT.....
http://rennlist.com/articles/did-a-m...-past-weekend/
Latest word is the GT3RS is really FUBARED and is or should be totaled.
Last edited by mjf6175; 01-25-2016 at 05:30 PM.