Ground Effects Question
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Racer
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Ground Effects Question
Hello,
Can someone please speak on your thoughts of the visible carbon fiber vs the painted carbon flash?
Also on the suede seat inserts...
Are there any benefits of one over the other? I really like the visible CF ones... The suede seems to give a richness to the interior.
I am just wanting your thoughts on them..
Thank you,
Dale
Can someone please speak on your thoughts of the visible carbon fiber vs the painted carbon flash?
Also on the suede seat inserts...
Are there any benefits of one over the other? I really like the visible CF ones... The suede seems to give a richness to the interior.
I am just wanting your thoughts on them..
Thank you,
Dale
Melting Slicks
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Here is a link to my photo album.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/g/album/3683234
I went with exposed carbon fiber, sometimes I wish I had Carbon Flash to match the vents, etc. Other times I am glad its exposed as it matches my roof.
I am one who does not like the Suede, so I have no comment other than that.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/g/album/3683234
I went with exposed carbon fiber, sometimes I wish I had Carbon Flash to match the vents, etc. Other times I am glad its exposed as it matches my roof.
I am one who does not like the Suede, so I have no comment other than that.
Last edited by jaden61; Feb 8, 2016 at 08:00 PM.
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I'm on my 2nd C7 Z06. My 1st had the Z07 package so it had all the aero package. I didn't want it again, so I ordered my 2nd without it and had my aero custom made. The factory stuff is very flimsy. My custom made is very durable and I don't find myself cringing when I enter and exit the car. The seats are nice, but I also didn't want the comp seats in my new one. The GT's are much more comfortable for me, I'm overweight.
Just my opinions.
Just my opinions.
Drifting
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The visible carbon fiber looks absolutely amazing, BUT you can not repair it easily. Generally it would require a replacement part. The painted stuff is VERY easy to repair if you damage it. I do not think that the painted detracts from the car at all, however it is just my opinion. I like the carbon flash a lot, and do not regret not having visible carbon fiber.
I hate the way suede feels, it gives me goose bumps so no help to you there.
I hate the way suede feels, it gives me goose bumps so no help to you there.
Melting Slicks
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From: Syracuse-Central Square New York Winer of the all Corvette race WGI 8/23!
Agree with the post above 100%!
Carbon Flash is nothing but a GM color and is used on a few cars exterior finishes other than the corvette. It does look cool in the sun other than that its black. So glad my car is Carbon Flash. When it gets beat up from road rash just sand and paint.
Carbon Flash is nothing but a GM color and is used on a few cars exterior finishes other than the corvette. It does look cool in the sun other than that its black. So glad my car is Carbon Flash. When it gets beat up from road rash just sand and paint.
Racer
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My preference is exposed CF but like others mentioned above carbon flash is going to be repairable if you mess up and hit it with something.
I've already dinged my CF front splitter. I was running late to meet the Mrs, didn't use the front camera and barely touched a high curb when parking. The result was a couple of scuffs on the front edge and a spider web stress fracture across the the top of the splitter. Though the splitter is intact and fully functional I'll never get it to look like new without replacing it. I'll eventually install a new one but I'm going to wait until I have a lot more seat time without hitting it again. I'll want knowing the distance of the front to the curb to be second nature before replacing. I don't want to have to buy a third one.
I would also consider purchasing the CF bits from a vendor vs ordering from GM. I bought the exposed CF Stage 2 Aero kit from Caravaggio which included the splitter, side skirts and OEM aero plate and mounting hardware for just over half the price of the OEM option and this included shipping and $200 for the dealer to install.
I opted out of the suede inserts as well.
I've already dinged my CF front splitter. I was running late to meet the Mrs, didn't use the front camera and barely touched a high curb when parking. The result was a couple of scuffs on the front edge and a spider web stress fracture across the the top of the splitter. Though the splitter is intact and fully functional I'll never get it to look like new without replacing it. I'll eventually install a new one but I'm going to wait until I have a lot more seat time without hitting it again. I'll want knowing the distance of the front to the curb to be second nature before replacing. I don't want to have to buy a third one.
I would also consider purchasing the CF bits from a vendor vs ordering from GM. I bought the exposed CF Stage 2 Aero kit from Caravaggio which included the splitter, side skirts and OEM aero plate and mounting hardware for just over half the price of the OEM option and this included shipping and $200 for the dealer to install.
I opted out of the suede inserts as well.
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I think you need to look at your last vehicle to decide how "tough" and resilient this one needs to be. If you never curbed a wheel or anything like that, exposed looks better. If you have a habit of a little road rash here and there, painted is likely a better choice.
Suede is a personal choice but I worry it's harder to clean than leather. Especially a steering wheel, I wouldn't want a used one from some sweaty-handed guy!
Suede is a personal choice but I worry it's harder to clean than leather. Especially a steering wheel, I wouldn't want a used one from some sweaty-handed guy!
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Melting Slicks
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You may have to start a new thread as this thread you ask about ground effects and then bring up suede. maybe next time ask about suede and bring up ground effects and see if the results differ.
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Most people that have the microfiber suede love it - and I've got it on order for my car that will be built next week and delivered about the first week of March.
As far as the visible Carbon Fiber aero pieces, one of the problems with it is that it is often on constraint - I think it's on restraint right now, so no telling how long you'd wait to get your car built if you want it.
I'm getting carbon flash on my car. My ZR1 has the visible Carbon Fiber splitter and side skirts, and I'm on my 5th splitter and second set of side skirts - and all of them after the original ones have been aftermarket. The aftermarket ones look the same and are A LOT cheaper!!!! On my C7 Z06 I didn't want to wait on a constraint that might add weeks or months to delivery, and I just didn't need the additional expense. The visible Carbon Fiber does look very nice, so you'll have to decide if it's worth the extra money and wait.
Talk with your dealer about the constraint on it.
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As far as the visible Carbon Fiber aero pieces, one of the problems with it is that it is often on constraint - I think it's on restraint right now, so no telling how long you'd wait to get your car built if you want it.
I'm getting carbon flash on my car. My ZR1 has the visible Carbon Fiber splitter and side skirts, and I'm on my 5th splitter and second set of side skirts - and all of them after the original ones have been aftermarket. The aftermarket ones look the same and are A LOT cheaper!!!! On my C7 Z06 I didn't want to wait on a constraint that might add weeks or months to delivery, and I just didn't need the additional expense. The visible Carbon Fiber does look very nice, so you'll have to decide if it's worth the extra money and wait.
Talk with your dealer about the constraint on it.
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Melting Slicks
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I think the main appeal to the suede is for track junkies. Just like race seats, leather slides and is not preferred. Same goes for the steering wheel and shifter, the grip is just much better even if you are wearing gloves. It really isn't something I would pick because it is "nicer" or a "premium" option.
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I think the main appeal to the suede is for track junkies. Just like race seats, leather slides and is not preferred. Same goes for the steering wheel and shifter, the grip is just much better even if you are wearing gloves. It really isn't something I would pick because it is "nicer" or a "premium" option.
If you get the Touring seats with the suede inserts, that's all you get. You get the standard wheel and shifter (no suede).
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I have occasionally read here and there where some owners love the suede and maybe it is because their cars came with it. I am also surprised the suede owners have not chimed in one way or the other.
You may have to start a new thread as this thread you ask about ground effects and then bring up suede. maybe next time ask about suede and bring up ground effects and see if the results differ.
You may have to start a new thread as this thread you ask about ground effects and then bring up suede. maybe next time ask about suede and bring up ground effects and see if the results differ.
Instructor
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I have the suede and wanted the inserts for the track. I did not want it on the wheel but have come to prefer it now that I have it. I wish my other cars had it. The inserts are also neither too hot in the sun nor too cold in the winter months. I just order another car and made sure I ordered the suede seat inserts.
Melting Slicks
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From: Syracuse-Central Square New York Winer of the all Corvette race WGI 8/23!
For you carbon flash folks there is a compromise. I hear over and over buying the real carbon look is for the "look". Most could care less about the high strength light weight material it is. Most cities or large towns have vinyl installers that can match the real look so close and nice that even the super car guy can be fooled. I've seen it many times and is almost laughable!
So, rap your carbon flash paint with vinyl. Damage it take it to a body shop rip off the vinyl repair, paint and reapply. My vinyl guy wants to do my car so bad he's promised it would look 95% close to the real thing. Possibly some day but track performance is taking the cake at the moment.
So, rap your carbon flash paint with vinyl. Damage it take it to a body shop rip off the vinyl repair, paint and reapply. My vinyl guy wants to do my car so bad he's promised it would look 95% close to the real thing. Possibly some day but track performance is taking the cake at the moment.
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Also, the Suede inserts are better than leather, never slipping in the seats and this car can put out some G's going, stopping, and sideways. But a major advantage is it is never Cold Or Hot when getting in. The vented seats work great too. Not an issue for cleaning, 4200 miles on Kalahari color.
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My 15 C7 Z06/7 has both the CF and the suede seats, and lot of Sunshine. I have had the CF on my ZR1 for 5 yrs and never damaged the splitters. Even bumped it once on the ZR but no damage. Beautiful!
Also, the Suede inserts are better than leather, never slipping in the seats and this car can put out some G's going, stopping, and sideways. But a major advantage is it is never Cold Or Hot when getting in. The vented seats work great too. Not an issue for cleaning, 4200 miles on Kalahari color.
Also, the Suede inserts are better than leather, never slipping in the seats and this car can put out some G's going, stopping, and sideways. But a major advantage is it is never Cold Or Hot when getting in. The vented seats work great too. Not an issue for cleaning, 4200 miles on Kalahari color.
Melting Slicks
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From: Fair Oaks, California
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I have occasionally read here and there where some owners love the suede and maybe it is because their cars came with it. I am also surprised the suede owners have not chimed in one way or the other.
You may have to start a new thread as this thread you ask about ground effects and then bring up suede. maybe next time ask about suede and bring up ground effects and see if the results differ.
You may have to start a new thread as this thread you ask about ground effects and then bring up suede. maybe next time ask about suede and bring up ground effects and see if the results differ.
Last edited by jaden61; Feb 10, 2016 at 01:09 PM.
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I had a C7 with GT seats and now have Z06 with competition seats with suede inserts a prefer them over not having them. I also have exposed carbon love the look and have had zero issues with damage to any of the pieces.