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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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I'm sure Fred can make them longer if you ask him. I've never had good luck keeping the foam protectors on and I'd be worried about them melting against warm to hot rotors.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 3X2
I use these to prevent rotor damage.
http://www.reverselogic.us/lug-bolt-guides.html
Maybe you could give us a price? It seem that it's a secret on the site until they have all your personal information.
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$16 each free shipping
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by C5ZEE06
$16 each free shipping
Thanks
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vettekid05
Can you send this picture to Sciom in Germany?
His email is: info@sicom-europe.com
If you can email him the pic he will let you know if it is acceptable or not.
I just sent out my rotors to get refurbished.
I think you should be okay to run them.
The ones I had large chip marks with gouge marks in them.
I sent the pic to Sicom in Europe per your suggestion and got the following response from Wolfgang Dietz:

In my opinion it is OK for driving. But to be sure you should invest 900€ to fix it properly. Brakes and tyres are not forgiving.

Sounds like Sicom offers a repair / refurbish service for the CCB.

Where did you (vettekid05) ship your rotors ? Europe ? Any details ? Cost, etc?
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by C5ZEE06
I sent the pic to Sicom in Europe per your suggestion and got the following response from Wolfgang Dietz:

In my opinion it is OK for driving. But to be sure you should invest 900€ to fix it properly. Brakes and tyres are not forgiving.

Sounds like Sicom offers a repair / refurbish service for the CCB.

Where did you (vettekid05) ship your rotors ? Europe ? Any details ? Cost, etc?
I learned something: a CCB can be repaired. Altho the cost isn't cheap (900 Euros = about $990), maybe it's a good idea.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by seamus2154
Refurbished??? Please explain. Is this for minor damage? I have pocked rotors that are within the weight spec but have experienced evaporation, curious as I thought these were toast. Thanks
Maybe we should take offline, but what is evaporation damage? can you elaborate? My car is 5 years old, low miles, made about 10-12 high speed stops and I see no degradation in the CC rotors.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Too-Fast
Maybe we should take offline, but what is evaporation damage? can you elaborate? My car is 5 years old, low miles, made about 10-12 high speed stops and I see no degradation in the CC rotors.
Carbon brakes do not wear like normal rotors. The resins that hold the rotor together evaporates. Once the brake gets below a certain weight they should be replaced. Your car will be no where near that threshold.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 10:44 PM
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I believe the permissible weight is stamped onto the rotors...the conventional thinking is that for street-use, the CC rotors could last the life of the car. Repeated track use with a series of high-temperature braking/stopping will necessitate removing the rotors periodically to have them weighed.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 02:43 AM
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Yes your carbon rotors can be refurbished. I sent out my rotors to Sicom in Germany to get done. You can get a good deal from him. I think you can get them done 2-3 times over. I heard that when they get done they are better than oem.
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Originally Posted by Too-Fast
Maybe we should take offline, but what is evaporation damage? can you elaborate? My car is 5 years old, low miles, made about 10-12 high speed stops and I see no degradation in the CC rotors.
If you aren't tracking your car, the rotors will probably last a lifetime. Mine were like brand new for 5 years with much more use, then degraded after tracking. Once you reach those much higher temps the carbon evaporates causing pocking or a rough surface. Thats why you have to weigh them to see if they are within spec.
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Originally Posted by Gary '09 C6
I believe the permissible weight is stamped onto the rotors...the conventional thinking is that for street-use, the CC rotors could last the life of the car. Repeated track use with a series of high-temperature braking/stopping will necessitate removing the rotors periodically to have them weighed.
I had read that before in another thread sometime ago, but forgot it.
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Originally Posted by seamus2154
If you aren't tracking your car, the rotors will probably last a lifetime. Mine were like brand new for 5 years with much more use, then degraded after tracking. Once you reach those much higher temps the carbon evaporates causing pocking or a rough surface. Thats why you have to weigh them to see if they are within spec.
Just for a frame of reference, how much "tracking". A couple of HPDE events, or ten, how many 20-30 minute sessions? Just trying to get a feel for the CC rotors durability.
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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If you tell that they are worn out by weighing them then you'd have to remove them to judge their wear. Sounds like a pain in the neck.
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You do have to remove them. Printed on the side of the rotor is a minimum weight in grams. Weigh them when you are doing a pad change.


If you manage to keep them cool, they will last a long time.
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Originally Posted by ElCid79
You do have to remove them. Printed on the side of the rotor is a minimum weight in grams. Weigh them when you are doing a pad change.


If you manage to keep them cool, they will last a long time.
I forgot pad changes come faster than disk changes so you're right just weigh them at pad changes.
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Originally Posted by Too-Fast
Just for a frame of reference, how much "tracking". A couple of HPDE events, or ten, how many 20-30 minute sessions? Just trying to get a feel for the CC rotors durability.

I remember reading in the ZR1 section a few posts by members regularly tracking their cars (HPDEs) indicating they would go through
three or four sets of CC pads and then have to change the CC rotors. A set of pads might last three--four HPDE days (4 sessions per day)
with a very skilled & experienced driver ?

Running standing 1/2 mile or mile events doesn't generate nearly as much sustained heat on the pads/rotors as road course work...


EDIT: see some comments in this thread about CC pad life by current CCB users...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...pressions.html

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Originally Posted by Too-Fast
Just for a frame of reference, how much "tracking". A couple of HPDE events, or ten, how many 20-30 minute sessions? Just trying to get a feel for the CC rotors durability.
I did 2-3 HPDE events in 4 years and all was well. 25 min sessions. Then I did 4-5 in one year the evaporation had started. Seems to be about 4 HPDE = a set of pads also. The rotors are very robust but seem to only really degrade if tracking. There is a threshold temp that starts the evaporation. Most never reach that unless tracking. Milkyu and WERKs both have a lot of experience with our rotors. Milkyu has switched to Iron rotors for tracking.
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