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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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I am going to do some parade laps at VIR in March.

Then a few weeks later I will have my first hpde comming up. It's a two day event at VIR w. bmwcca. About a week later I have a private track day for just one day with some friends at another track.

My tires are in good shape right now.

Continental extreme contact DW. w roughly 3500miles of street.


Will they tires and brakes likely make it through all three days or should I preorder some replacements.
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They might well last since you are new to road course driving, but don't expect 'miracles' from the Contis. The OEM Michelins are much faster.

Brakes, you'll be fine.

Make sure you replace the OEM brake fluid though.

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Thanks bish! I have castrol SRF to go in and some new oil on the way.

I wanted to run super sports but they were not available when I got the car. And the wife and I had a road trip so I wanted to get rid of the sc2. Contis were all that were available. Will they be terrible, or just kinda meh?
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Originally Posted by ElCid79
Thanks bish! I have castrol SRF to go in and some new oil on the way.

I wanted to run super sports but they were not available when I got the car. And the wife and I had a road trip so I wanted to get rid of the sc2. Contis were all that were available. Will they be terrible, or just kinda meh?
I doubt they'll be "terrible", but they won't handle like the Michelins. I bet they will give you a good warning when you are getting close to the limit of adhesion with them, and that's a good thing. Drop the psi all the way around probably to about 27/28 cold, and see how high they go at the end of a session. Pay close attention to the sidewalls to see how much of the tyre you're using, and adjust psi as necessary.

Start in Track mode 'Dry', and then after a couple of runs you should be able to switch to 'Sport 1'.

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I would upgrade the brake fluid to something better (sounds like you are doing that) and I would buy some track pads capable of higher temps than stock. VIR is a fast course, you will get some serious speed in a Z06 so why not spend a couple hundred and know your pads arent going to have any issues. Pads + Brake fluid are MUST have upgrades IMO.

Those tires are "meh". But if you are new to HPDE, they wont be holding you back much.

Fwiw, make sure to check all fluids before and after and its not a bad idea to change oil after you have done your events.

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I would definitely get a set of track pads and than just put your stock pads back on when done. It really hampers your track days when you have no brakes. I would bring your stockers along just incase as well. The SRF fluid is a great idea. As far as track pads there is a lot out there as far as I'm concerned the best set up for you at this point would be Carbotech XP10 front XP8 rear. You will be able to drive this set up to all your events with no issue you may decide to leave them on probably not do to some noise.

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Are Yall talking about for a z07 carbon ceramic car? I thought those pads were pretty good.
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Originally Posted by ElCid79
Are Yall talking about for a z07 carbon ceramic car? I thought those pads were pretty good.
You never specified you had a Z07. Yes, the stock pads will be more than adequate for you but you still should flush the fluid of you are going to be participating in extensive track days.
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Originally Posted by fleming23
You never specified you had a Z07. Yes, the stock pads will be more than adequate for you but you still should flush the fluid of you are going to be participating in extensive track days.
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Originally Posted by ElCid79
Are Yall talking about for a z07 carbon ceramic car? I thought those pads were pretty good.
I've been doing HPDE's for a long time now, and I've only used the OEM pads in my CCM brakes. You'll be absolutely fine with them, but make sure you've at least done the Street burnishing procedure.
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