Any Procharger 1/4 mile times?
03-18-2016, 10:27 AM
#1
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
Any Procharger 1/4 mile times?
I see the 800 900 1000 rwhp numbers and procharger said on phone they have sold a bunch of kits. Has anyone here ran a procharger at the track yet?
03-18-2016, 12:30 PM
#4
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
yes ive been hearing that and belt issues. I just want to see if anyone has actaully got past the problems and has a good running set up?
03-18-2016, 12:47 PM
#5
Le Mans Master
I haven't seen:
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
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03-18-2016, 01:58 PM
#8
I haven't seen:
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
So far - I started with a solid baseline - parts are being put on as we speak. Local track open April 10th...
In case the link doesn't work; 578rwhp & 596rwtq @9psi. An A8 dyno'd 529 but gained 130 whp/wtq with the same mods for reference. I'm hoping for around 700/750.
https://www.facebook.com/DasilvaMotorsports/#
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03-18-2016, 02:30 PM
#9
Race Director
If I can make it to the Texas Mile I am hoping to see a Procharged one that is there make a few passes. I know there will be some with the factory blower so it could give us a decent comparison.
03-18-2016, 03:25 PM
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The more the merrier!
Would be good to meet some more of my CF bros.
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03-18-2016, 03:40 PM
#11
Well - I have some good news, I will actually be testing both and producing write ups for drags and road course. I am doing 1 7/8 AR headers, x-pipe, ported snout, Halltech CAI ("race" filter), Lingenfelter 15% underdrive pulley and tune. Cooling mods - C&R primary and GM secondary. Aftermarket catch can as well.
So far - I started with a solid baseline - parts are being put on as we speak. Local track open April 10th...
In case the link doesn't work; 578rwhp & 596rwtq @9psi. An A8 dyno'd 529 but gained 130 whp/wtq with the same mods for reference. I'm hoping for around 700/750.
https://www.facebook.com/DasilvaMotorsports/#
So far - I started with a solid baseline - parts are being put on as we speak. Local track open April 10th...
In case the link doesn't work; 578rwhp & 596rwtq @9psi. An A8 dyno'd 529 but gained 130 whp/wtq with the same mods for reference. I'm hoping for around 700/750.
https://www.facebook.com/DasilvaMotorsports/#
Good to know you are going to be testing! I need to know which direction to go with the car. Don't want to do things twice. I would love 900+whp, just not sure if the A8 will hold.
03-18-2016, 03:44 PM
#12
Scraping the splitter.
I haven't seen:
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
Procharger Timeslips
Callaway Timeslips
Timeslips from anyone on factory wheels faster than 10.X
Basically people are garage-racing these. They add hardware, tell themselves how fast it must be, and never take it to the track because they don't want to break anything.
The ones that actually make it to the track (road course or drag strip) seem by and large to be mostly stock cars with minor mods. Which speaks well of the basic engineering or poorly of the aftermarket, I don't know.
Prove me wrong - who's got a cold air intake, lower pulley, cat-back, all of that and still road-courses the thing regularly... anyone? Maybe there are a ton of people with highly modified track cars that just are too busy racing to post!
S.
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03-18-2016, 03:59 PM
#13
For you - it's not the normal answer as you have a vested interest in going fast (or at least posting numbers that people will be interested in seeing in a video) - so it would make sense to go aftermarket blower for you. As people have already written - they are having some issues with them - but like anything else - that will get solved in time. You could always start with what you have and do what I'm doing. Another shop with the same mods ran 9.8's at 140 MPH - which is okay for what it is.
You can always use the headers, x-pipe and CAI for a blower swap if/when you do it.
I would suggest stages. Good luck!
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03-18-2016, 06:40 PM
#14
Drifting
It is quite disappointing there are literally no numbers to be found. No shop cars, nothing. Given the price of the kit, it's understood this is better suited for 1/2 mile and beyond, Mexico pulls etc... But I've only read of one successful build which is having transmission issues.
Are there any success stories ?
Are there any success stories ?
03-18-2016, 06:47 PM
#15
My honest opinion is if you go with a F series Procharger and yiu have the fuel to supply it then the swap can be beneficial... But if your making 750rwhp or less with a Procharger kit, your most likely going to be slower than a fully bolt on factory blower.....
As a calibrator I can tell ya these new ECUs are tricky.... From what I have seen and have helped, even "Big" shops are having problems tuning them
As a calibrator I can tell ya these new ECUs are tricky.... From what I have seen and have helped, even "Big" shops are having problems tuning them
03-18-2016, 08:22 PM
#16
Race Director
My honest opinion is if you go with a F series Procharger and yiu have the fuel to supply it then the swap can be beneficial... But if your making 750rwhp or less with a Procharger kit, your most likely going to be slower than a fully bolt on factory blower.....
As a calibrator I can tell ya these new ECUs are tricky.... From what I have seen and have helped, even "Big" shops are having problems tuning them
As a calibrator I can tell ya these new ECUs are tricky.... From what I have seen and have helped, even "Big" shops are having problems tuning them
03-22-2016, 10:15 AM
#18
The E92 not only looks at airmass it looks at tq... GM has always used airmass calculations and now it is predominately tq..
This alone is a challenge bc it's new and many are still learning!!
Before on older ECUs you push down on the throttle for additonal power, now if you not commanding more power from the ECU additional throttle input does nothing for power....
Older ECUs tq values could be maxed out and now they need to be tuned to the engine/trans...
If the engine tune isn't right for its tq calculation the trans tune sure won't be....
We also can command during the crank cycle when to injection fuel into the combustion chamber in like port injection when it's sprays through the cycle...
That's just a VERY small portion of Info... Many of us have been on hp tuners figuring this stuff out since 2013 or before dealing with the E78 or messing with the LNF DI setups
This alone is a challenge bc it's new and many are still learning!!
Before on older ECUs you push down on the throttle for additonal power, now if you not commanding more power from the ECU additional throttle input does nothing for power....
Older ECUs tq values could be maxed out and now they need to be tuned to the engine/trans...
If the engine tune isn't right for its tq calculation the trans tune sure won't be....
We also can command during the crank cycle when to injection fuel into the combustion chamber in like port injection when it's sprays through the cycle...
That's just a VERY small portion of Info... Many of us have been on hp tuners figuring this stuff out since 2013 or before dealing with the E78 or messing with the LNF DI setups
03-22-2016, 10:55 AM
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The E92 not only looks at airmass it looks at tq... GM has always used airmass calculations and now it is predominately tq..
This alone is a challenge bc it's new and many are still learning!!
Before on older ECUs you push down on the throttle for additonal power, now if you not commanding more power from the ECU additional throttle input does nothing for power....
Older ECUs tq values could be maxed out and now they need to be tuned to the engine/trans...
If the engine tune isn't right for its tq calculation the trans tune sure won't be....
We also can command during the crank cycle when to injection fuel into the combustion chamber in like port injection when it's sprays through the cycle...
That's just a VERY small portion of Info... Many of us have been on hp tuners figuring this stuff out since 2013 or before dealing with the E78 or messing with the LNF DI setups
This alone is a challenge bc it's new and many are still learning!!
Before on older ECUs you push down on the throttle for additonal power, now if you not commanding more power from the ECU additional throttle input does nothing for power....
Older ECUs tq values could be maxed out and now they need to be tuned to the engine/trans...
If the engine tune isn't right for its tq calculation the trans tune sure won't be....
We also can command during the crank cycle when to injection fuel into the combustion chamber in like port injection when it's sprays through the cycle...
That's just a VERY small portion of Info... Many of us have been on hp tuners figuring this stuff out since 2013 or before dealing with the E78 or messing with the LNF DI setups
Good info. Does it do that for both the A8 and the M7, or just the A8?
03-22-2016, 11:23 AM
#20
I guess I will be the first one and wont be afraid to post results tomorrow night
Im drag racing at ATCO raceway for a fun rental 3/23 with 3 or 4 c7 z06s..lol
My car is built 100% by me... remote tuning done from a reputable tuner with my HPT..No dyno so no clue what it makes all I know it runs awesome
2016 C7 A8 Z51,D1 procharger making 6 lbs of boost(for now) and im using a 305/35/19 nt05r drag radial
my guess is 11.0@130ish
Im drag racing at ATCO raceway for a fun rental 3/23 with 3 or 4 c7 z06s..lol
My car is built 100% by me... remote tuning done from a reputable tuner with my HPT..No dyno so no clue what it makes all I know it runs awesome
2016 C7 A8 Z51,D1 procharger making 6 lbs of boost(for now) and im using a 305/35/19 nt05r drag radial
my guess is 11.0@130ish
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