Those of you with non-runflats
#21
I carry a Kevlar painters suit ( no point in getting the car dirty after rolling around on the ground ), folded and rolled tightly, pliers, plug kit and small air compressor, 15mm nylon sleeved deep well socket, for the tire guy ( just in case he doesn't have one ) and it all fits in the cubby hole .
Last edited by Hershey71; 04-09-2016 at 10:26 AM.
#22
Team Owner
I carry a Kevlar painters suit ( no point in getting the car dirty after rolling around on the ground ), folded and rolled tightly, pliers, plug kit and small air compressor, 15mm nylon sleeved deep well socket, for the tire guy ( just in case he doesn't have one ) and it all fits in the cubby hole .
A 3/4" socket works just as well as it's only .002" larger(half the thickness of a sheet of paper).
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Hershey71 (04-09-2016)
#23
Sorry, I wasn't up to the task of going and looking, couldn't remember the MM size. Thanks for clarifying though
#24
Team Owner
I carry a tire plug kit in all my vehicles. I don't have a mini air compressor. Over the years I've plugged maybe 20 tires including a couple Corvettes. Most of the time I'd drive to somewhere there was air and pull nail or whatever and plug the tire. I also carry pliers so I have something to actually pull the nail out. No big deal and I don't worry about it at all.
Runflats your ok.
But I don't care for runflats but the newest ones are pretty good
compared with the old ones.
I like Michelin SS non-run flat. It only comes in 325/20 275/19
but those sizes work well.
Seems to me the best tire to get.
No issues nothing a better ride little less noise! I forgot less expensive and 4 pounds less weight on each rear 3 off each front.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-09-2016 at 03:27 PM.
#25
Race Director
On non run flat tires in these sizes. If you drive anywhere more than to the side of the road. You won't have to worry the tire will be toast.
Runflats your ok.
But I don't care for runflats but the newest ones are pretty good
compared with the old ones.
I like Michelin SS non-run flat. It only comes in 325/20 275/19
but those sizes work well.
Seems to me the best tire to get.
No issues nothing a better ride little less noise! I forgot less expensive and 4 pounds less weight on each rear 3 off each front.
Runflats your ok.
But I don't care for runflats but the newest ones are pretty good
compared with the old ones.
I like Michelin SS non-run flat. It only comes in 325/20 275/19
but those sizes work well.
Seems to me the best tire to get.
No issues nothing a better ride little less noise! I forgot less expensive and 4 pounds less weight on each rear 3 off each front.
No question any of us can come up with some scenario that non-ZP's won't get you home and I can come up with several that ZP's won't get you home or even to civilization without a tow/mail shipment in of a new tire.
Life is too short to worry about everything that might happen. Here in the West the most important thing is to have drinkable water to survive a few days!
#26
Drifting
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#28
Race Director
If you really worry too much about potential issues that could come up with non-ZP's, they are probably not good for you. Many are oblivious to the possible problems with ZP's and are very happy not worrying about those small percentage possible problems.
Just as an FYI, our Forester came with a space saver spare. We do a lot of rough back country unpaved "roads". Even the National Park Service warns about flats in some of the areas we go to and say that a tow could cost $1-2K in those areas. The spacesaver spare would get the car off the dirt, but not out of many places we go with the Forester. I carry a full-size mounted spare in it always and when we do the rough back country stuff, I take a 2nd mounted full-size spare, my small floor jack, my Z06 kit of inflator, plug kit and Slime and bring tools and my battery powered impact wrench, so I could be on my way in 10 minutes. I've had to use the inflator a couple of times, but I expect that I will really need the full sized spare due to those "road" conditions.
I am satisfied I'll be OK and survive with my non-ZP's and my emergency kit in the ZP's. I sleep well.
#29
Maybe "might" have the tow truck guy jack up the car, take off the wheel to patch? That's why I carry a can of TPMS friendly Slime, although that would be my last choice after air compressor and plug kit.
If you really worry too much about potential issues that could come up with non-ZP's, they are probably not good for you. Many are oblivious to the possible problems with ZP's and are very happy not worrying about those small percentage possible problems.
Just as an FYI, our Forester came with a space saver spare. We do a lot of rough back country unpaved "roads". Even the National Park Service warns about flats in some of the areas we go to and say that a tow could cost $1-2K in those areas. The spacesaver spare would get the car off the dirt, but not out of many places we go with the Forester. I carry a full-size mounted spare in it always and when we do the rough back country stuff, I take a 2nd mounted full-size spare, my small floor jack, my Z06 kit of inflator, plug kit and Slime and bring tools and my battery powered impact wrench, so I could be on my way in 10 minutes. I've had to use the inflator a couple of times, but I expect that I will really need the full sized spare due to those "road" conditions.
I am satisfied I'll be OK and survive with my non-ZP's and my emergency kit in the ZP's. I sleep well.
If you really worry too much about potential issues that could come up with non-ZP's, they are probably not good for you. Many are oblivious to the possible problems with ZP's and are very happy not worrying about those small percentage possible problems.
Just as an FYI, our Forester came with a space saver spare. We do a lot of rough back country unpaved "roads". Even the National Park Service warns about flats in some of the areas we go to and say that a tow could cost $1-2K in those areas. The spacesaver spare would get the car off the dirt, but not out of many places we go with the Forester. I carry a full-size mounted spare in it always and when we do the rough back country stuff, I take a 2nd mounted full-size spare, my small floor jack, my Z06 kit of inflator, plug kit and Slime and bring tools and my battery powered impact wrench, so I could be on my way in 10 minutes. I've had to use the inflator a couple of times, but I expect that I will really need the full sized spare due to those "road" conditions.
I am satisfied I'll be OK and survive with my non-ZP's and my emergency kit in the ZP's. I sleep well.
#30
Le Mans Master
Last Saturday I waited 3-4 hours for the AAA truck, I wasn't impressed, so that's not always viable.
As noted many cars come with no spare AND no run flats. My E46 M3 comes with a can of (now certainly expired) tire goo and a compressor. I think my wife's Escalade is the same. So I wouldn't worry too much if I carried a patch kit and a can of fix-a-flat.
As noted many cars come with no spare AND no run flats. My E46 M3 comes with a can of (now certainly expired) tire goo and a compressor. I think my wife's Escalade is the same. So I wouldn't worry too much if I carried a patch kit and a can of fix-a-flat.
#31
Team Owner
I drive I would say an easy 40-50k per year 6 cars and trucks. Maybe 1 flat every 5 years. I buy new tires a lot.
Tires at 2 to 3 /32's are gone and deliver half the traction. Tires are the only thing keeping you on the road.
Learned a lot from my friendly tire dealing brother.
Not really my brother but he ships tires and wheels for me. Once sent a set of 4 ZR1 wheels and tires for 40.00 bucks to texas now he send a set to new York for 120.00.
He gives me great discounts. I might be at 15 k in tires with him
He recommends great stuff and he is perfect with my Corvette wheels.
He swap's all 4 rims out in 45 minutes. Road force balance I get perfect tire service.
I change them earlier than I used to and it is the best way. Your NOT saving money with old tires.
The Michelin SS non run flat 325 rear 275 front .2 tenths shorter but .2 tenths wider rear. over the stock 335.
Save 4 pounds each rear and 3 each front after more miles they seem better than the Zp's. Plus 500 cheaper.
Tires at 2 to 3 /32's are gone and deliver half the traction. Tires are the only thing keeping you on the road.
Learned a lot from my friendly tire dealing brother.
Not really my brother but he ships tires and wheels for me. Once sent a set of 4 ZR1 wheels and tires for 40.00 bucks to texas now he send a set to new York for 120.00.
He gives me great discounts. I might be at 15 k in tires with him
He recommends great stuff and he is perfect with my Corvette wheels.
He swap's all 4 rims out in 45 minutes. Road force balance I get perfect tire service.
I change them earlier than I used to and it is the best way. Your NOT saving money with old tires.
The Michelin SS non run flat 325 rear 275 front .2 tenths shorter but .2 tenths wider rear. over the stock 335.
Save 4 pounds each rear and 3 each front after more miles they seem better than the Zp's. Plus 500 cheaper.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; 04-10-2016 at 03:58 PM.