So the 2017's Z06 require 93 octane, vs the 15-16's...thoughts? Benefits/disadvantage
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So the 2017's Z06 require 93 octane, vs the 15-16's...thoughts? Benefits/disadvantage
I have a 2017 Z coming. And I've just learnt it requires 93 octane, it says right in the manual, and anything less will result in less power/possible knocking. So that means the 17's have a different tune. So the 15-16's only required 91. So my question is, besides cooler engine temps with the higher octane, what's the advantage. More crank Hp? Because I haven't seen anything advertising that and as far as I know it still makes 650/650 on 93 fuel, the same as the 15/16's but only needed 91 fuel to accomplish that...may sounds like a newbie question but I'm trying to figure this out.
#2
I would have a difficult time believing that the '017's have any octane requirements than the 015's or 016's. 91 octane fuel is all that's available in several of the western USA states. The cars are tuned to run on 91 octane but have the ability to generate more HP/Torque with higher octane fuel, like the 93 octane available in many eastern states. I believe you're concern is unjustified.
#3
Race Director
^^ Bingo. Basically run the highest you can aka not WaWa wato-gas.
Technically the car would run on regular but it would be pinging/knocking and you risk hurting a piston from predetonation. This really only applies under load.
Technically the car would run on regular but it would be pinging/knocking and you risk hurting a piston from predetonation. This really only applies under load.
#4
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My guess is that they've partially addressed the overheating issue by running a more aggressive timing scheme (or less retard due to high intake temps, etc) and that in turn requires more octane.
The best I can buy here (WA) is 92, however.
If it actually fixed the track heating I'd be willing to run a can or Torco in each tank to bring up the octane if I could run that tune, but I'd really want to know what the rationale for the higher octane requirement is/was before I started to emulate it.
My big question, though, is when you say you've "just learned" that it requires 93, where'd you learn that?
The best I can buy here (WA) is 92, however.
If it actually fixed the track heating I'd be willing to run a can or Torco in each tank to bring up the octane if I could run that tune, but I'd really want to know what the rationale for the higher octane requirement is/was before I started to emulate it.
My big question, though, is when you say you've "just learned" that it requires 93, where'd you learn that?
Last edited by davepl; 11-15-2016 at 03:27 PM.
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Le Mans Master
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1593304193
My guess is the 2017 cars have the new "100 octane tune".
#7
Racer
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I would have a difficult time believing that the '017's have any octane requirements than the 015's or 016's. 91 octane fuel is all that's available in several of the western USA states. The cars are tuned to run on 91 octane but have the ability to generate more HP/Torque with higher octane fuel, like the 93 octane available in many eastern states. I believe you're concern is unjustified.
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Racer
Thread Starter
My guess is that they've partially addressed the overheating issue by running a more aggressive timing scheme (or less retard due to high intake temps, etc) and that in turn requires more octane.
The best I can buy here (WA) is 92, however.
If it actually fixed the track heating I'd be willing to run a can or Torco in each tank to bring up the octane if I could run that tune, but I'd really want to know what the rationale for the higher octane requirement is/was before I started to emulate it.
My big question, though, is when you say you've "just learned" that it requires 93, where'd you learn that?
The best I can buy here (WA) is 92, however.
If it actually fixed the track heating I'd be willing to run a can or Torco in each tank to bring up the octane if I could run that tune, but I'd really want to know what the rationale for the higher octane requirement is/was before I started to emulate it.
My big question, though, is when you say you've "just learned" that it requires 93, where'd you learn that?
#9
Drifting
My 2016 surges and feels like it's missing with 91 octane and light throttle. When I use 93 or higher it runs much better. I'm not surprised they upped the recommended octane based on my experience.
#10
Drifting
That's bad news for me. 93 is a pain in the *** around here. I've even considered switching to E85 on a C5 just to get around having to dick around mixing race gas.
#12
I read in another post where someone was adding a couple gallons of E85 to a tank of 91 to get up to 93. Does this work?
For or the people that know more about the pluses and minuses to this please speak up.
For or the people that know more about the pluses and minuses to this please speak up.
#13
Le Mans Master
My '16 runs better with 93, which I generally use anyway. My previous GT500 ran better with 93 too. GM is addressing the obvious in the '17 owner's manual. I doubt that it's anything more...
Last edited by sTz; 11-15-2016 at 08:18 PM.
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So what are we concluding, here. I have a '016 M7 and have NEVER experienced any knocking or anything else, but 93 octane fuel is readily available at most gas stations where I live, including the discount or off brand locations like mini marts. So is the consensus that 2015 & 2016 owners should consider getting the "100 0ctane" tune from GM? If that tune makes the car run stronger with the same 93 octane fuel and it's supported by GM (ie it doesn't cancel the car's warranty), then it sounds like a respectable idea. Am I getting this correctly or f'd up?
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So what are we concluding, here. I have a '016 M7 and have NEVER experienced any knocking or anything else, but 93 octane fuel is readily available at most gas stations where I live, including the discount or off brand locations like mini marts. So is the consensus that 2015 & 2016 owners should consider getting the "100 0ctane" tune from GM? If that tune makes the car run stronger with the same 93 octane fuel and it's supported by GM (ie it doesn't cancel the car's warranty), then it sounds like a respectable idea. Am I getting this correctly or f'd up?
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I spent two days running at Carolina Motorsports Park running 90 octane premium without Ethanol. Car ran fine. If there was a drop in power the rear R7s didn't know it. They kept spinning in 3rd gear at 85 to 90 mph.
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I smell 's..... I don't believe "Owners Manual" pics. looks photoshop. So read your own manual. My '16 manual says use 91. Never heard pinging w/ 91....Just enjoy.
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