Corvette Z06 Owners Hit GM with Proposed Class-Action Lawsuit
06-21-2017, 02:35 PM
#581
Burning Brakes
06-21-2017, 02:55 PM
#582
Drifting
06-21-2017, 03:11 PM
#583
Melting Slicks
Also keep in mind Johnie's 1LE only comes with M6. No A10 in the ZL1 1LE. Why?
06-21-2017, 03:17 PM
#585
Melting Slicks
The $14k rumor is if you were to buy only the trans from GM performance, which I am not sure you can even do yet. The adder on the ZL1 is a little more than 1500 when you include gas guzzler tax.
06-21-2017, 03:18 PM
#586
I you use GM's press from Milford you can get a theoretical ~7:16. Just use the track distances and their fact that the 1LE is 3s faster at Milford!
jvc? TECH contributer here has said it's around 7:10, by his sources. I have thought that perhaps they are holding it up because of all this overheating stuff. There is only so many reasons, therefore, if he is right it still might show at some point. How valid would it be in a car really so hit and miss. Tadge's background isn't about that!
The A8 is a great reason for the A10!
jvc? TECH contributer here has said it's around 7:10, by his sources. I have thought that perhaps they are holding it up because of all this overheating stuff. There is only so many reasons, therefore, if he is right it still might show at some point. How valid would it be in a car really so hit and miss. Tadge's background isn't about that!
The A8 is a great reason for the A10!
i am sure the base z06 vs z06/z07 stage 3 aero is not 13 sec slower.
If if it does run a 7:16, the 1LE is a supercar in muscle car package
06-21-2017, 03:19 PM
#587
just my 2 cents.
06-21-2017, 03:26 PM
#588
Le Mans Master
Pobst, a professional, was less than 1s there!
In an all around car the auto kills it!
And the A10 is easier on the motor. It's called mechanical advantage or torque. More gears maintains more! IE Semi trucks!
And the A10 is easier on the motor. It's called mechanical advantage or torque. More gears maintains more! IE Semi trucks!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-22-2017 at 06:10 AM.
06-21-2017, 04:03 PM
#590
Burning Brakes
The $14k rumor is if you were to buy only the trans from GM performance
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06-21-2017, 04:34 PM
#592
Melting Slicks
I'm not trying to throw gasoline on this stupid fire but...
I just got back from a track day at Sebring in 93 degree heat running 30 minute sessions with a hour between sessions all day except for the "happy hour" which was 60 minutes. No overheating, no limp mode. I am happy.
Of course I am not nearly as fast as all of you but my car worked well for me. I was very worried after reading all these posts. Also, none of the other Z06's there that I talked to had any problem.
2017 M7 Z06
I just got back from a track day at Sebring in 93 degree heat running 30 minute sessions with a hour between sessions all day except for the "happy hour" which was 60 minutes. No overheating, no limp mode. I am happy.
Of course I am not nearly as fast as all of you but my car worked well for me. I was very worried after reading all these posts. Also, none of the other Z06's there that I talked to had any problem.
2017 M7 Z06
06-21-2017, 06:45 PM
#593
Le Mans Master
Yeah, I've heard low twenties!
I know for a fact where the new ZL1 1LE will land vs the ZO6. I was at the Motor Trend Best Drivers Car Test a few weeks back where Randy Pobst hot lapped both the ZL1 1LE and the Grand Sport ZO7 package. The Camaro is still a ways off of the ZO6 and closer to the Grand Sport than the ZO6. Both ZL1 1LE and the Grand Sport should be able to lap the ring faster than the C6 ZO6 time of 7:22 if we correlate Laguna times relative to Nurburgring times.
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-24-2017 at 01:29 AM.
06-21-2017, 06:57 PM
#594
Le Mans Master
No, it's the engine, like I said! ;)
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-21-2017 at 07:02 PM.
06-21-2017, 07:21 PM
#595
Class action
This sounds here like the way it got on the C6 forum about the valve issue. When motors start letting go, First it was let's ask Tadge. All we got was a bunch of dribbling BS from him. Then it was crying about diminished value. Guess what? They all diminish no matter what you have. Then it was back to all the arguing about whether the problem was real and how many were really affected. Then came the class action. Same arguments then about the class action as I see now. That was all a couple years ago that the big bad lawsuit was launched and resulted in GM clamming up about LS7's for good. No ones car got fixed in any way by GM and little to nothing has been heard about the class action except for a barrage of delays. I decided then not to purchase a C7 Z because of the way GM handled our issue and I would expect the C7 issues to be handled exactly the same. They will just come out with another new model that takes everyone's eyes off the ball and business will go on as usual. Then everyone will go on how fantastic the new model is until GM puts the screws to them too. Life goes on...
This sounds here like the way it got on the C6 forum about the valve issue. When motors start letting go, First it was let's ask Tadge. All we got was a bunch of dribbling BS from him. Then it was crying about diminished value. Guess what? They all diminish no matter what you have. Then it was back to all the arguing about whether the problem was real and how many were really affected. Then came the class action. Same arguments then about the class action as I see now. That was all a couple years ago that the big bad lawsuit was launched and resulted in GM clamming up about LS7's for good. No ones car got fixed in any way by GM and little to nothing has been heard about the class action except for a barrage of delays. I decided then not to purchase a C7 Z because of the way GM handled our issue and I would expect the C7 issues to be handled exactly the same. They will just come out with another new model that takes everyone's eyes off the ball and business will go on as usual. Then everyone will go on how fantastic the new model is until GM puts the screws to them too. Life goes on...
Last edited by beden1; 06-21-2017 at 07:26 PM.
06-21-2017, 07:32 PM
#596
Le Mans Master
Good Work!
Class action
This sounds here like the way it got on the C6 forum about the valve issue. When motors start letting go, First it was let's ask Tadge. All we got was a bunch of dribbling BS from him. Then it was crying about diminished value. Guess what? They all diminish no matter what you have. Then it was back to all the arguing about whether the problem was real and how many were really affected. Then came the class action. Same arguments then about the class action as I see now. That was all a couple years ago that the big bad lawsuit was launched and resulted in GM clamming up about LS7's for good. No ones car got fixed in any way by GM and little to nothing has been heard about the class action except for a barrage of delays. I decided then not to purchase a C7 Z because of the way GM handled our issue and I would expect the C7 issues to be handled exactly the same. They will just come out with another new model that takes everyone's eyes off the ball and business will go on as usual. Then everyone will go on how fantastic the new model is until GM puts the screws to them too. Life goes on...
This sounds here like the way it got on the C6 forum about the valve issue. When motors start letting go, First it was let's ask Tadge. All we got was a bunch of dribbling BS from him. Then it was crying about diminished value. Guess what? They all diminish no matter what you have. Then it was back to all the arguing about whether the problem was real and how many were really affected. Then came the class action. Same arguments then about the class action as I see now. That was all a couple years ago that the big bad lawsuit was launched and resulted in GM clamming up about LS7's for good. No ones car got fixed in any way by GM and little to nothing has been heard about the class action except for a barrage of delays. I decided then not to purchase a C7 Z because of the way GM handled our issue and I would expect the C7 issues to be handled exactly the same. They will just come out with another new model that takes everyone's eyes off the ball and business will go on as usual. Then everyone will go on how fantastic the new model is until GM puts the screws to them too. Life goes on...
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/30...pickup-trucks/
It completes that picture, I guess!
Last edited by johnglenntwo; 06-21-2017 at 07:36 PM.
06-21-2017, 08:16 PM
#597
When I got the 2008 I thought to my self I have got the fastest race car on the market'
Then little by little they got more HP power .And with the valve problem it was easy for me to move it with 1,400 miles on the clock . I dident race like you guys do I agree with you.
Then little by little they got more HP power .And with the valve problem it was easy for me to move it with 1,400 miles on the clock . I dident race like you guys do I agree with you.
06-21-2017, 08:21 PM
#598
Burning Brakes
Why is this thread still alive? All we do here is whine and b#$% about how flawed GM's engineering is with respect to the C7 track cooling. GM/Corvette is silent on the issue and will continue to be as such.
Stuff like this is why its so hard to stand behind this brand long term. Sadly, alternatives for this kind of performance are few and far between under $100k and GM knows it.
Stuff like this is why its so hard to stand behind this brand long term. Sadly, alternatives for this kind of performance are few and far between under $100k and GM knows it.
06-21-2017, 08:27 PM
#599
By keeping the pressure up, maybe GM might become inspired to actually do something about it...
