Corvette Z06 Owners Hit GM with Proposed Class-Action Lawsuit
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#644
I went to the Ron Fellows School back in May, the instructors are well aware of the problem, we ran the A8's in Manual/Paddle Mode, and of course we were not hot lapping or running the cars really hard. Now I when I rode along with one of the instructors when he was really pushing the car (just 2 laps) the temps got up there.
#645
Burning Brakes
Bill.....much respect to you and many thanks for the knowledge that you have imparted/shared.......however, you have an additional rad, and know how to drive, meaning short shift.....i think it might be time to let it go buddy....... (i mean trying to convince ppl otherwise)
AND he has an M7. The higher percentage of limp issues and overheating is with owners of the A8.
#646
Team Owner
I'm with ya.
With a luxury SUV, you can have super-comfy LazyBoy-style front seat, room to stretch tired bones, enough cargo space to pack anything & everything you might need, quiet cabin, great visibility, super-duper audio system.
Also, you can pull over and tilt the seat back for a little nap or just crawl in the back.
A trip across the country should be about SIGHTSEEING, not being seen in a Sportscar, or some kind of silly bragging rights or whatever the hell.
OK, so fair enough...you picked the wrong vehicle.
With a luxury SUV, you can have super-comfy LazyBoy-style front seat, room to stretch tired bones, enough cargo space to pack anything & everything you might need, quiet cabin, great visibility, super-duper audio system.
Also, you can pull over and tilt the seat back for a little nap or just crawl in the back.
A trip across the country should be about SIGHTSEEING, not being seen in a Sportscar, or some kind of silly bragging rights or whatever the hell.
OK, so fair enough...you picked the wrong vehicle.
Why have a $80K sports car locked in the garage and then drive a boring sedan/SUV when the exciting sports car will do everything, plus more, than the sedan/SUV will do an a cross country trip.
Now if I have more than two people on the trip, then I also have the correct vehicle, a boring sedan/SUV to drive. But I bet most older people, like me, that go on road trips that have a Corvette in their garage have just one or two people in the car on the trip.
I SIGHTSEE in a terrific vehicle, my C6 Z06.
Just like this couple that I photographed in the Black Hills, a year ago. I bet they were sightseeing also. Just because one is in a sports car, doesn't mean that they are not aware of their surroundings. They saw the old steam powered train that I was on and waved.
I'm not vain so I don't have to prove that I'm not by leaving my sports car home in the garage while I drive my boring luxury sedan cross country.
I don't own three Corvettes because I'm vain. I own them because I enjoy owning and driving them. I really do feel sorry, though, for those that are vain and they drive a particular car(any car) to impress others, or believe that they need to drive a particular car in order to get any poontang.
If I were vain, why would I drive my boring sedan on errands around town, etc, if I was trying to impress you? Wouldn't it make more sense to ALLWAYS drive one of my Corvettes if I were vain and wanted everyone to see that I have a Corvette(actually three) so I could brag about it. I'm not concerned about what other people think about me based on the car I drive. Hell, here it is summer and I haven't had one of my Corvettes out of the garage in three weeks, and over a month before that.
You talk about tired bones, and needing to stretch your legs and take a nap in the back of your SUV. I'm 75 years old and I don't need any of that crap. Just like others, I stop every couple of hours when traveling between destinations to take a leak and stretch my legs.
Do you get in the back of your SUV and take a nap when you are driving up to the top of Pikes Peak. I sure as the hell don't.
If I'm so sleepy that I need a nap, then I check into a motel, and resume my SIGHTSEEING the next day, in my Corvette.
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#647
On a cross country trip it isn't about driving a cool vehicle, it's about the trip...the people you meet, the places you see, the experiences you will remember.
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#648
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I meet more people because they want to talk about my "cool vehicle". You would be surprised about the number of women that talk to our ladies about how they would like to take a trip like we are doing in our "cool cars".
If we were in our boring sedan/SUV, there would never be a conversation between the girls.
I have never had anyone ask if they could have their picture taken with my boring sedan, but plenty have with my Corvette. There was one trip where I stopped in WY at an scenic overlook and there was a Japanese couple(on vacation from Japan) with their 10 year old son in a rented sedan. The lady was a HUGE Corvette fan and talked to me about my car for around 30 minutes; her husband and son could have cared less. They never acknowledged that I was driving a Corvette, but she knew everything about Corvettes and said that they had visited Bowling Green and toured the museum and the factory several days before our meeting. Do you really think that that lady would have struck up a conversation with me about my car if I had been driving my boring sedan? Same with the couple vacationing from Switzerland that I met while driving my Corvette in Kings Canyon N.P. Or the couple from NY city that was in a rented Mercedes two seater that I met in Yosemite N.P.. They have a Corvette, but flew out to California and then rented a "cool car' to do their sightseeing in. They wanted to also talk "Corvette". I would have never met them if I were driving my boring sedan. On and on, and on......
What makes you believe that we don't meet interesting people, visit interesting places and have experiences we will remember, because we are in "cool car"? Driving a boring sedan/SUV does not automatically make you meet interesting people or see interesting places or have experiences you will remember that you would not have, because you are in a "cool car". Actually, just the opposite.
The ONLY trip I didn't take, that I wanted to take in my Z06, was 17 day road trip; first to Seattle, then the 3 day auto ferry to Skagway, ride the WP&Y steam train, then drive back through Canada in my Z06, visiting the Canadian Rockies(and their seven national parks), then Glacier N.P. in MT.
The reason I didn't take the Z06 was I couldn't be assured that it would clear the angled loading/unloading ramps on the ferry that changed with the tide, etc. Because of that little problem, driving my Z06 was out of the question as a vehicle with a high ground clearance is needed.
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#649
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The side line off topic conversation should be taken somewhere else as it will achieve one thing, to close or dilute this threads topic and purpose. Is there really an argument taking place about something completely personal, individual and lacking a "correct" answer? For those of you trying to take the superior position of being open minded or unencumbered, you too have failed since you couldn't help yourself with being judgemental in your remarks.
What ever each of us would drive on a hypothetical cross country drive is utterly immaterial to the thread and topic at hand. How does it advance this topic to know I'd LOVE to use the Z06 but I can't fit the kids and find the seats uncomfortable after 2 hours. I'd much rather drive my SUV which has for me, many Z06 attributes that make driving it almost as fun.
I for one would like to see the thread updated and maintained as I believe this issue is real, significant and deserving of a correction from GM. Can we please return to the topic?
What ever each of us would drive on a hypothetical cross country drive is utterly immaterial to the thread and topic at hand. How does it advance this topic to know I'd LOVE to use the Z06 but I can't fit the kids and find the seats uncomfortable after 2 hours. I'd much rather drive my SUV which has for me, many Z06 attributes that make driving it almost as fun.
I for one would like to see the thread updated and maintained as I believe this issue is real, significant and deserving of a correction from GM. Can we please return to the topic?
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#651
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The C6Z I had, pre-magride, was a bone-shaker. I took it on one 2 hour highway trip and never did it again. Hated it. But the C7Z (Z06, FE6) is a new and different animal.
Still not really on topic, sorry... but the topic was played out anyway!
#652
Bill.....much respect to you and many thanks for the knowledge that you have imparted/shared.......however, you have an additional rad, and know how to drive, meaning short shift.....i think it might be time to let it go buddy....... (i mean trying to convince ppl otherwise)
Are you implying that someone who doesn't know how to drive is able to run this car hard enough on a track to make it overheat? You need to be able to drive to push this car to the limit my friend.
#653
Le Mans Master
Heres my question - Why didn't GM just install these for free as to avoid this obvious litigous situation when owners were continuing to report problems?
Honestly this should have been addressed before the 2016 Z06s where released.
#654
Le Mans Master
$800 Installed? Is it a GM product? Does installing it void the warranty?
Heres my question - Why didn't GM just install these for free as to avoid this obvious litigous situation when owners were continuing to report problems?
Honestly this should have been addressed before the 2016 Z06s where released.
Heres my question - Why didn't GM just install these for free as to avoid this obvious litigous situation when owners were continuing to report problems?
Honestly this should have been addressed before the 2016 Z06s where released.
Given they haven't even back-fed the aux cooler to 2015-2016 M7s, or even offered a discount on that part... or free labor... or anything, I wouldn't be holding my breath for any fix of the 15/16.
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The ONLY trip I didn't take, that I wanted to take in my Z06, was 17 day road trip; first to Seattle, then the 3 day auto ferry to Skagway, ride the WP&Y steam train, then drive back through Canada in my Z06, visiting the Canadian Rockies(and their seven national parks), then Glacier N.P. in MT.
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#657
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Why is this thread still alive? All we do here is whine and b#$% about how flawed GM's engineering is with respect to the C7 track cooling. GM/Corvette is silent on the issue and will continue to be as such.
Stuff like this is why its so hard to stand behind this brand long term. Sadly, alternatives for this kind of performance are few and far between under $100k and GM knows it.
Stuff like this is why its so hard to stand behind this brand long term. Sadly, alternatives for this kind of performance are few and far between under $100k and GM knows it.
#658
The side line off topic conversation should be taken somewhere else as it will achieve one thing, to close or dilute this threads topic and purpose. Is there really an argument taking place about something completely personal, individual and lacking a "correct" answer? For those of you trying to take the superior position of being open minded or unencumbered, you too have failed since you couldn't help yourself with being judgemental in your remarks.
What ever each of us would drive on a hypothetical cross country drive is utterly immaterial to the thread and topic at hand. How does it advance this topic to know I'd LOVE to use the Z06 but I can't fit the kids and find the seats uncomfortable after 2 hours. I'd much rather drive my SUV which has for me, many Z06 attributes that make driving it almost as fun.
I for one would like to see the thread updated and maintained as I believe this issue is real, significant and deserving of a correction from GM. Can we please return to the topic?
What ever each of us would drive on a hypothetical cross country drive is utterly immaterial to the thread and topic at hand. How does it advance this topic to know I'd LOVE to use the Z06 but I can't fit the kids and find the seats uncomfortable after 2 hours. I'd much rather drive my SUV which has for me, many Z06 attributes that make driving it almost as fun.
I for one would like to see the thread updated and maintained as I believe this issue is real, significant and deserving of a correction from GM. Can we please return to the topic?
I'll let Joe continue in his delusion and return to the thread's topic.
#660
Safety Car
Don't track mine so I don't really give a s**t. I love the car. Period.