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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 11:03 AM
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I have a 17 Z06 A8. I want to add about 50 hp with bolt ons. I've seen Corsa X pipes and CAI's and Diablo tunes along with other mods. I want the items that work not the hype. I'm not looking to void the warranty
just to add a little more muscle. I appreciate the input from fellow owners. Thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 12:37 PM
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What will you be using the car for? (Road course, 1/4 mile, canyons,....)
CAI without tune is not the best idea.
Tune will void powertrain warranty.
I don't think you can add power without risking warranty.
My 2 cents, the car has more power than anyone can use. I believe investment should go for secondary components to be able to get the most out the car.
DSC suspension or extra cooling (if the car used for performance driving) would be first upgrade.
If the car gets above certain temps, it's looses power. Adding extra HP will get you to power lossss sooner. In another word it's just a waste of money.

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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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BMS air filter and ported tb for a start.
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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 01:19 PM
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The only way to know whether your mods work is to start with a baseline dyno or 1/4 mile run. As 5thGear asked, why do you want this hp increase? Why 50 hp?
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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Honestly, if there was an easy 50hp on the table, GM would have done it. So you need to look at areas where GM was forced to compromise.

To find compromises, look at things forced on GM by commonality with the Stingray and/or forced upon them by the form factor.

That yields really two things, at least as far as I've learned: hood height and air cleaner. The hood is low enough that it compromised the intercooler, which was improved in 2017. The air cleaner is re-used from the Stingray and I don't think it flows enough for the LT4.

So, while I think adding an arbitrary 50hp is silly (why not pretend the car ships with 600hp and then you're already done!), I'd add a green air filter and be done with it.

Any serious mods are going to be the same thing - compromises in the exhaust system forced on them by emissions, for example. But then you're deep into warranty voiding.
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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
Honestly, if there was an easy 50hp on the table, GM would have done it. So you need to look at areas where GM was forced to compromise.

To find compromises, look at things forced on GM by commonality with the Stingray and/or forced upon them by the form factor.

That yields really two things, at least as far as I've learned: hood height and air cleaner. The hood is low enough that it compromised the intercooler, which was improved in 2017. The air cleaner is re-used from the Stingray and I don't think it flows enough for the LT4.

So, while I think adding an arbitrary 50hp is silly (why not pretend the car ships with 600hp and then you're already done!), I'd add a green air filter and be done with it.

Any serious mods are going to be the same thing - compromises in the exhaust system forced on them by emissions, for example. But then you're deep into warranty voiding.
You are right the C7 intake doesn't flow enough for the Lt4.

The Halltech CAI does deliver. My 2015 Z06 did 604 rwhp with just the Halltech
intake. On a known Mustang dyno. VERY strong! My 2008 Z06 with a A&A kit with 9 psi with headers on the 427 never did that high. My car came in the shop with 7,000 miles on the Halltech and 14,000 on the car.

My tuner said He see at least 40 rwhp on everyone he installs.

I looking at getting one purchased as well for my 2017 A8.
I have 2 feelers out on used ones so I don't work for Halltech.
just his intake is the bomb!

They did leave 50 hp on the table.

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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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running a BMS filter and crosa X, bang for the buck for sure. not much more needed here... .just yet lol.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
You are right the C7 intake doesn't flow enough for the Lt4.

The Halltech CAI does deliver. My 2015 Z06 did 604 rwhp with just the Halltech
I agree there might be 50hp left in the intake tract but I think 48 of those are likely in the filter. I've yet to see a comparison of:

Baseline vs Green Filter vs Full CAI

...all on the same dyno.
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
I've yet to see a comparison of:

Baseline vs Green Filter vs Full CAI

...all on the same dyno.
http://www.burgertuning.com/images/d...ntake_dyno.jpg

Not exactly what you're looking for, but close enough
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^^^ Thanks! Am I correct in reading that as most of the power comes from the filter? It seems roughly equivalent, or close to, the drop-in. And it looks more like 20hp.
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Added an AFE CAI and Tony Mamo TB for approx. 55hp to my 2016 A8 Z06. Terrific, no codes, relatively low cost, and no warranty problems.

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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
^^^ Thanks! Am I correct in reading that as most of the power comes from the filter? It seems roughly equivalent, or close to, the drop-in. And it looks more like 20hp.
Opps here we go! AFE is not a Halltech we all know the AFE is not as good. I agree the BMS filter should be close as the AFE flows little more than stock not the 689cfm the Halltech can do!
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Originally Posted by tobaccokid
Added an AFE CAI and Tony Mamo TB for approx. 55hp to my 2016 A8 Z06. Terrific, no codes, relatively low cost, and no warranty problems.

The Mamo is a great mod.
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I think the AFE is as good as Haltech

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