Not sure what you're talking about. I'm a Forgeline owner and believe them to be a great wheel. What can be construed as being a trouble maker in my post?

The OP asked how much the Forgeline wheel he posted a picture of cost. I'm curious of the pricing as well. As you didn't answer his question I thought maybe you missed the question so I just repeated it. Not sure how asking the price of a product you're selling is causing trouble?

You also stated they are the best made wheel anywhere. As this is a very strong statement I was hoping you'd share the technical basis for your comment.

You seem to be very defensive when all I'm doing is: 1) repeating a question posed to you and; 2) for you to share technical, quantitative information supporting your statement. I'm not challenging your statement, just want to see the basis for it.

Don't take it the wrong way but you might reread my post and relax a bit. You seem pretty touchy, especially to a fellow Forgeline fan and owner. I really don't see where you see me starting a pissing contest as I didn't challenge a single word you wrote?

Maybe you're having a bad day and posted as such. FWIW and to show I'm a fan and owner of Forgeline wheels, here's a pic of one of the three sets of Forgeline's run on the Porsche I race. Strange that'd you'd get upset over a request for documentation supporting a statement you made as a vendor of the product. I would think you'd go out of your way to provide the info requested.

To demonstrate my point that it seems like you're ranting reread your post. You state: "....so you can stop arguing on every single post you make!" I really don't think I'm arguing with myself?

Regarding my comment on other wheels I'm just sharing information on different options available to a new C7Z owner as he asked. WOW...

 

Pricing is found on Forgelines site set think list is around $6200 a set. As for what we sell for its against Forgelines pricing policy to display what we do for our vette guys and have for 10 years. My opinions are based on everything we have seen and done with wheels over the years. You are welcome to your opinion as am I but stop arguing about everything. If your happy with your wheels then thats awesome and nothing else need to be said. But if you want to continually challenge all ill gladly pay for an independent testing facility to do a side by side if thatll make you feel better. Just enjoy your vette and you can post your opinion but we have done this a long time and have thousands of happy customers and dont need arguing on this great forum. When the OP of threads talks about a certain wheel keep it on target dont try to interject your wheels etc etc. because he asked about forgelines and same as a few other individuals. We are here to help the forum and i have several vettes as you have seen so do have a clue what In doing.

Lots of your posts get removed for fighting etc etc so be happy and enoy life and your vette. All that matters is you like what you have!

Take care

 

This has been a real learning experience. I started Forgeline to make racing wheels. I can tell with 100 percent that Forgeline is one of the only brands in this forum that professional teams race on with racing slicks,.... They understand and know the difference. It is not Hype. I will start next week with an article every week about facts,,, engineering and real racing fatigue facts... please engage ,,,,,, I have no problem with just about anyone's wheel... but when statements come out that Forgeline is hype and expensive because of overhead...it is difficult because it is not true

i can get emotional, this is a family business, If there was nothing said bad about us.. No problem.. But i have read several times that we are not worth the price...

This may be taken down... I hope not.. This is discussion. i would love more real facts to come out...

 

Maybe your wording that doesn't sit well with me either, I am sure something like " One of the best wheels out there" would of sufficed.

I'm not going to post the rest, but CW4L.. You made a statement that probably isn't true and all he did was ask you to inform him of your claims. What Data, testing and such.. And for you to go off on him and start calling him a trouble maker is BS. For all I know your process is exactly the same for Repops for 1/4 the price. All I am pointing out is you made a claim and he wanted info on your claim.. I don't think that was too much to ask for. I just don't think you should make claims you can't back up. It should be as easy as linking to a page on your website that proves your claims and if you can't do that... Well that speaks for itself...

 

All good its been answered in several threads already, we love the forum so not gonna start anymore pissing matches. Ill put em against any wheel why I run em, and thats my opinion and you may have yours which we Respect! Help each other and stop all the junk

 

Back to the OP's question. I've bent or cracked 8 OEM wheels now, 4 cup wheels, 2 silver painted Z06 wheels, and 2 black with red stripe. I finally gave up and bought Forgeline's both for street wheels and another set for track use. I went with them because they are the one vendor that actually places load ratings on each wheel and has spent the time here on the forum trying to educate on their process.

Rikhek and I agree on a lot but on the topic of wheels I'd rather pay a little more to get something that I believe has been properly engineered to last. Otherwise, I'd just buy another set of the $1500/set OEM wheels. After shopping around I went with the Katech KA1 wheels made by Forgeline for street wheels and GA1R wheels from Gerry at CW4L for track wheels because the service was awesome.

 

What I'd like to know is why we're having so many issues with the stock wheels. We sure didn't seem to have this issue in the C6 gen that I can recall.

 

I really wish I would not have to replace my Corvette wheels, but unlike my hellcat and demon GM does not offer forged wheels standard or as an option. In the northeast where we live the roads are very poor, I have several wax customers in PA and NJ that have bent or even broken their stock Z06 wheels. Have had many sets of HRE wheels over the years, I saw a set of Forgeline's in person and started checking them out, contacted Gerry, and then told him what I wanted and ask him if Forgeline would do something unique, they did, even mounted and balanced the tires, already have the ones picked out for the ZR1 Have had dealings with many on the Forum over the years, yea I am old, and Gerry is a good guy, great to deal with, not sure he ever sleeps.

 

Lots of heated responses on my original thread. After having to replace a rear tire at 500 miles due to a screw I can see why strength is a big concern for these wheels. Large diameter and a one sided offset. I can imagine the stresses placed on the wheel is enormous.

I have a trophy 500 mile $500 tire hanging in the garage. Maybe a piece of glass and make it a coffee table?

 

Ok we are all on same page its bullshit oem wheels are what they are and we all want same thibg. How does Chevy put out a 110k monster and put garbage wheels on is beyond me. My stock C7R wheels are sitting in the basement and using em to hold my extra golf clubs.

You would think Chevy would want to help but nope, kind of sad actually, I sure hope the zr1 has better stock wheels when we order even though we will change out regardless its always good to have a set of nice stockers.

I couldnt be happier with my Z07 except the stock wheel package and the overheating issues on the track. I put another 20k into performance mods with ECS and at 750RWHP but going into limp mode after pushing hard, pisses me off. But I love her nonetheless!!

Good morning all and at least we all share passion for our Vettes!!!

 

That's exactly what I did. Better yet, stack a couple of them and you can make a standing table.

 

You might want to mention a small detail that you totally track your car hard. Running trk mode is much harder than street driving on the wheel.

I have owned likely more factory Corvette wheels and drive a ton of Corvette miles and never bent a wheel and the one wheel that
did I found bent was a forged wheel. I'm on Corvette number 9
and countless sets of GM factory wheels.

The GM speedline wheels are good wheels and have done well for me.

 

IMO you would be hard pressed to hurt a factory wheel on the street.

 

Over blown for sure your seeing a very very very small sample the wheels are fine for your Corvette!

 

My significant experience is at variance to what you're stating. I'm NOT trying to start a pissing match but rather to share my factual experience.

I track my car fairly hard on a frequent basis and have NEVER bent a wheel on track.

I never run TRACK mode on the street. Typically TOUR or SPORT. On my C7Z I've bent the OEM wheels, rotary forged wheels and true forged wheels on the street. I've owned C5 and C6 Corvettes and never bent a wheel on any of my prior Corvettes.

Last ones to bend were forged and all it takes is a pavement cut for a utility crossing or repair with a "sharp" (i.e., 90 degree) transition/depresssion. I bent 3 forged wheels crossing one of these cuts at 75 mph. The cut/depression was less than 2" deep and I hit it straight on. I've never bent a wheel on track.

Causal analysis dictates accidents/undesired events are NEVER the result of a single cause. The theory in failure analysis is the "Principle of Multiple Causes". Specific to bending wheels on the C7Z there are a good number of multiple causes. For a "bad thing" to happen all of the multiple causes are encountered/occur simultaneously. Several of the many multiple causes that pop to mind relative to the topic at hand:

1. Thin sidewall on low profile tires.

2. Stiff sidewall construction.

3. Very wide wheels resulting in a large moment arm at the outside edge of the wheel.

4. Very tall (i.e., 19" and 20") wheels resulting in minimal structural support at the outside of the wheel. large moment arm.

5. Very wide wheels resulting in minimial structural support/strength along the entire barrel.

6. Thin, lightweight wheels.

7. Inadequate mechanical integrity/strength in wheel design.

8. Stiff suspension regardless of what mode you're running.

9. High speed shock compression is very slow to provide performance.

10. Limited shock travel for handling performance.

11. Roads with surface irregularities.

12. Etc, etc, etc.

Dig deep back into your grey matter to the days of Physics classes and the Conservation of Energy principle. Specifically, "energy can neither be created nor destroyed". The energy has to go somewhere when an event occurs. Typically the weakest part of the system as a whole absorbs/dissipates most of the energy.

Test question: Where is the weakest part of the system in the case of a car traveling on imperfact roads at somewhat high speeds with a stiff shock/spring suspension with relatively short shock travel utilizing tall, wide wheels and tires with stiff, thin sidewalls?

Winner, winner, chicken dinner...

Rick

P.S. MUCH too much discussion and significance is being placed on what suspension setting is being used. It really doesn't matter as it's a relatively MINIMAL contributing factor.

 

Thanks but my reply's you quoted were to other's. Other than that what I said applies I shared my factual experience as well.
I have no issue with the stock wheels.
I would say it is a small number that do.

 

Having been up your way last summer, all I can say is I sure wish our roads down here were as good as the ones I drove on in OR and WA. Sadly, the entire Dallas Ft Worth area is being rebuilt along with the major north/south interstates. Thus, we have some pretty rough roads to drive on.

 

All of them were bent or cracked on the street in tour mode. I only run tour on the street and all these wheels had MPSS tires that I don't run on track.

 

You think your roads sucks....take a spin around here, you'll be glad to go back to Texas!!! Having said that, few C7 Z06 guys around here bent/cracked OEM wheels! Never heard such thing on the C6! All the ZR1 guys, me included never broke a single wheels. Same exact size! HRE and Forgeline are truely top of the line, you getwhat you paid for! One brand that not alot of folks know around here are FINSPEED wheels. Crazy high quality wheels, on pair or even better than HRE/Forgeline in quality, for significant less money, but still twice as much than rotary forged! I had them on ZR1, loved them! My buddy still have my ZR1, and those wheels are just insanely high quality!

 

That's weird! how many miles you drive in your Corvette's?

I run tour mode 28,XXX on my 2015.
Sold in the last 3 years
ZR1 7,000 miles (the ZR1 I switched to forged wheels and had 1 straightened only time I have bent a wheel on the Corvette's.)
2014 C7 blown sold with around 14k
Just sold in October a 2008 Z06
with 47,000. Stock wheels are great you must have some dozy roads